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Overall feeling of sb150 for technical riding

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#1 ·
Hello, this is my first post on Mt right for a long time, but I’m
looking for a new bike, and I will not be able to do a dirt demo due to all the issues with covid, there will be no demo bikes sent out on loaner to any bike shops in my area, with any brand, and as I’m sure you all know wait times on new frames are December at least for all of the major brands that I would consider except Revel, but I’ve ruled out the Rascal mostly due to all the reports about pedal strikes. I live in Arizona, desert riding in the low country tends to be very rocky and technical with lost of sharp edged rocks which is mostly why I’m going for the 150 and not the 130, and I need at least 150 travel in front, there are trails with short, super steep drop-ins where you’re basically filling over a rock face, but I also want flexibility to do well in other more open fast riding areas like what you would have in Colorado.
Originally I was interested in bikes like the Pivot Switchblade v2, which ticked all the boxes (and had 157 spacing + coil compatibility, both positives for me), the Revel Rascal, the Ibis Ripmo v2, and the Santa Cruz
Hightower v2, all great bikes in their own right.
I’m just a hair under 5’11” (179cm), 145lbs - about 68k, I think - and that’s ready to ride, 31” inseam, with I wingspan about 73” (ape index +1).
I’m giving all that info because this time I think that in my buying decision I will rely heavily on which bike feels the best fit wise, and less heavily on the different nuances in the suspension between these four bikes, assuming they are all very close in performance.

It turns out that my local bike shop had a couple Ripmos that I could pedal around the back parking lot, as well as an sb150, so I rode all three of those, trying to get a sense of the handling, how well they fit me, how easy it was to manual, and how they felt at the pedals. The medium Ripmo was too small, the large, while being the right size, felt ok, but nothing special, I’m not sure if the bars were in the ideal position, but it felt kind of like a 29er with steering input.
The 150, on the other hand, felt intuitive from the get go, I felt like I would be able to carve turns and pedal much better on it.
I felt like, based on fit, handling, and general feel at the pedals, I liked the 150 better, acceleration felt snappy compared to the somewhat average feeling Ripmo. Again, this was only a short parking lot test, which is all I will be able to do before making a decision.

Here’s my question:
Would the performance of the Ripmo in technical terrain with lots of square edged rocks be that much better than the 150 that I would be better off getting the Ripmo instead ?
Some people have commented that the switch infinity bikes are better, and feel better where there are lots of wide open more flowy fast trails, and that they feel somewhat harsh in comparison to the dw link bikes in terrain with lots of sharp, square edged features. Not all of my trails are like that, there’s usually sections that are more open, rolling and fast, and sections with more jagged types of rocks and sandy, loose sections as well, a good mix of features, it I would like the suspension to feel good in all sections, not jarring and bouncy and throwing me off line.
That’s it to say I need an uber soft, cushy, pillowy bike that sinks deep into its travel frequently, I like support and getting the feeling of the trail too.
I consider myself a relatively advanced, skilled rider. I’ve been mtb’ing since ‘94, in a variety of terrain from desert to ledge Sedona type stuff to rocky and rooty northeast US riding. Any input it advice is welcome, thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
I don’t know anything about the Ripmo but I had the 150 for a year. The 150 is a great all around bike on the ups and the downs. I never complained once while climbing though I do feel like the 150 gets hung up in the chunk which several other people/reviews have commented on also. The 150 also isn’t plush but just a fast bike from point A to point B. I feel like the Ripmo is a tad more geared for climbing then the DH. But id say 150 all the way.


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#3 ·
I don't know anything about the Ripmo but I had the 150 for a year. The 150 is a great all around bike on the ups and the downs. I never complained once while climbing though I do feel like the 150 gets hung up in the chunk which several other people/reviews have commented on also. The 150 also isn't plush but just a fast bike from point A to point B. I feel like the Ripmo is a tad more geared for climbing then the DH. But id say 150 all the way.

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Correction: I meant to say 'I do NOT need an ultra plush kind of bike',
spell correct can be a real pain.

So your 150 would kind of get hung up in square edged chunk ?
Is that why you got rid of it if you mind my asking ?
It's much harder for me to save up enough to purchase a bike, it takes a long time so I wouldn't be able to upgrade the next year, I'd need to keep it for 2 to 3 years , so I want to make a good choice on a bike and not be immediately confronted with a, 'oh ****, this bike sucks doing this' kind of situation. This makes it really difficult trying to choose when you can't demo.
 
#5 ·
I just Installed the Cascade Components Link on my SB150 as originally I didn't think I'd want to spend $270 on an aftermarket linkage but without a doubt my SB150 is now better than my 2020 Enduro both up and down and is a better pedaling and mellow terrain bike than the Enduro. The main improvement has been Square edged suspension composure and the added progression of the rear suspension which is the best I've ever felt on a non-DH bike. And on top of that the bike feels even better on small bump sections and mid stroke feel. I didn't want to think it would make a great bike even better but it did.
 
#6 ·
I also ordered the link for my SB130 and I'll remove the .86 Volume spacer that I needed since I was bottoming the DPX2 before. If the link is anything like the SB150 improvement I'll be set for a few years before needing to consider any bikes. The Enduro is feeling so ordinary right now
 
#14 ·
I’ve been perusing other threads as well as listening to YouTube reviews, and that seems to be a common issue people have had with the switch infinity. From watching the squish videos it appears that with the rail design there is no moment where the rear swing arm is able to move rearward a little bit, away from the direction of the bump, as there would be in other designs like the dw link where the physical link between the two triangles allows the rear axle to move a little bit out of the way of the direction of the bump force. Even on the dw link bikes, this distance is very tiny, but it could still make a big difference in the overall feel.
To me it looks like the original switch design, the one that apparently violated the Santa Cruz patents, had some of this rearward ability to move the rear axle a tiny bit away from the direction of the bump force, because it was an eccentric bearing that rotated, giving both n
horizontal and vertical dimension to the travel direction.