I doubt anytime soon, within the last year they have released the HD4, Hakka MX & now the new 29er. Something though to keep the radar on for.

 

Sometimes I wonder why people are so obsessed with "updates".

Really: between my original Mojo Classic (2005) and my current HD3 the only significant differences are the head angle, and the stiffer rear. The minors are the tapered fork, the length (I could have picked a large instead of medium, same result), and the 650b wheels.

Two years? What do you think could have changed in two years for a frame!

 

Color, shorter seat-tube for droppers, new shock, and move back to 120mm is what I'd like to see. Maybe more reach/slacker.

 

When is this going to hit in Trans-Fat orange?

 

Could somebody give me a nutshell on frame updates from 2016 and onward? Has the Mojo 3 remained the same, or updated specs/geo?

I really want one.

 

Could somebody give me a nutshell on frame updates from 2016 and onward? Has the Mojo 3 remained the same, or updated specs/geo?

I really want one.

No geo/frame updates - only build kit changes.

 

Yeah likely new colors this fall is what Ibis told me, but no geo changes.

 

Any hints regarding the new colorways?

 

I'm wondering as well.

Seems like everyone is headed toward the 76+ seat tube angle and the offset forks like the Ripmo, New Yeti SB1XX series...

 

I'm wondering as well.

Seems like everyone is headed toward the 76+ seat tube angle and the offset forks like the Ripmo, New Yeti SB1XX series...

I hope ALL bikes don't go this route. Granted, steep ST's are really good for longer-travel bikes with slacker HTA's that pretty much only go up steep and then down steep. But I don't really like that steep of a ST on a 67-68* bike with more gradual hills or more flattish terrain. JMO but I don't like riding a 76* ST on a lot of (most of) my local trails. In the mountains, yeah.

 

What does a steeper STA actually give?
With all said and done, once your seat position relative to the BB is dialed in what difference does it make if the STA is 70 or 75 deg? You are positioned at the same spot while riding anyway.
Some say a steeper STA puts you 'on top of the BB'. Well... that depends on the seat post set-back and saddle position.
Can someone clarify this?

 

The steeper seat tube angle is part of the longer reach/ increased front center idea. Meaning, as bike manufacturers increase the front length of the bike, the riders body positions needs to move forward in order to keep the front wheel weighted and have the body weight distributed evenly on the bike.

 

What does a steeper STA actually give?
...

Nothing much. Just push you saddle forward if you like a more forward position.

There are limits: for the same saddle position on the seat post, the difference between a 74 and a 76 angle results in a 2.5 cm move forward for a 1 meter distance BB to saddle. 75 to 76 is around 1.3 cm.

Of course you cannot push the position too much forward! :nono:

 

But when spinning on flat/undulated ground I would rather have the saddle back where it was.

Exactly. New school steep seat angle geometry is based on the fact that most of the important MTB seated pedaling occurs on climbs that are often steep (ie: over 10%). KOPS is a road concept, predicated on the fact that you pedal seated on all sorts of terrain (and rarely over 7-8%). I too had an HD3 (and a Ripley) with saddles scooted all the way forward. Now on a Ripmo and it offers a far more useful range of saddle adjustment (and yes my knees are far happier).

 

Exactly. New school steep seat angle geometry is based on the fact that most of the important MTB seated pedaling occurs on climbs that are often steep (ie: over 10%). KOPS is a road concept, predicated on the fact that you pedal seated on all sorts of terrain (and rarely over 7-8%). I too had an HD3 (and a Ripley) with saddles scooted all the way forward. Now on a Ripmo and it offers a far more useful range of saddle adjustment (and yes my knees are far happier).

I think you believe (and seem to repeat) the commercials of the bike industry a bit too much. Example? The press release of the new Norco Fluid "A longer reach and steeper seat angle create a more forward riding position keeping you centered on the bike and putting you in an efficient pedalling (sic) position. This allows you to punch up climbs effortlessly while having the grip and control to stick your lines and push into corners confidently."

Than you read the specs and it turns out the seat angle is 74.5 :madman: If they convince people to buy a new bike because of a 0.5 degree difference from the norm they are real marketing geniuses! :thumbsup:

 

I'm really hoping its a Ripley LS refresh. I thought I read JKW drop in a comment somewhere that there is another 29er in the works.

 

120 Ripless...

 

My Ripley LS wishlist:

-Lower seatmast and standover
-Ditch the sloppy/creaky clevis mount for the lower shock eyelet. For a $3k frame I shouldn't have to wrap my shock eyelets in rim tape to have a quiet bike.
-Let us flip the shock to fit a full size bottle without hitting the climb switch on the Float.
-Stiffen up the rear end a little / drop the FD Mount
-Find a flexible paint that doesn't crack. On my third V2 swingarm that looks like it's cracked even though I now know it's probably just the paint.
-Better downtube protection that extends to beneath the BB
-Slacken HA a smidge
-Steepen SA a smidge
-Design around a 140mm 36 [emoji48]

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And lengthen the bike up about 30-40mm for us super tall folks.

 

I was at HQ today and asked. Was told only thing you will see is color choices.

 

Orange!!

 

If Ibis had a new mojo 4 coming out tomorrow they would not tell you about it today.

I was chastised for posting a Ripmo pic the week before it was announced.

 

Mojo 3 ship with a 44 mm offset fork. 44 mm offset is pretty standard on a 27.5 bike. 29er std it 51 mm offset and some 27.5 plus forks.


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JKW just posted about a new Ibis model he's going to review on Monday.

 

120-100mm option carbon hardtail

 

saw that, what do we think?

 

Too early for Mojo3 or HD4, Ripley refresh. I think possibly the rumoured hardtail and I did hear a aluminum ripmo is being tested. A small seat tube tweak to the HD4 would be awesome.

 

Any updates as to when the new colors will be released for the M3? I really want to get a M3 but would like to see what new color(s) are available before ordering.

 

With all the 29er hype - I think a new Ripley may come before Mojo4.