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I've been shopping around for a new hardtail to replace my 2012 Stumpy and while a few companies come kinda close, nobody sells what I want. I've been riding for a little over 40 years, mostly hardtails and mostly CC. I've always just bought my bikes off the shelf at shops, but I don't think that's gonna happen this time. Time to build one.

Almost none of this is set in concrete, but so far here's the direction I think I wanna go.

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Of course the total will be something different, but for those things on which I haven't really decided, I've estimated what I will spend. But I expect to be pretty close to the $2500 mark once it's all done. I didn't really start out with a price in mind - just started plugging in stuff that I want to use & the number seems reasonable enough for what I'm getting. I've shopped around quite a bit in this price range and just can't find what I want in a pre-built bike. There are always tradeoffs. Seems like this is clearly the right path.

So a nice bike, although not a high end build, but I think going any further here on parts would get into diminishing returns territory. I'm not a particularly hard or fast rider - I just like to ride & am thinking all this will suit me well for years to come. No racing for me. I don't think I'd benefit from carbon. I'm not a weight weenie, so the extra weight savings would not be worth being worried about my frame if it struck something...plus that would add to the cost. Reliability is more important than weight. And cost - I do not want to get crazy there. I keep a few bikes around at any given time and am not a kazillionaire, so need to keep it sane there.

OK, I lie, I do intend to run a tubeless setup this time to save on wheel weight. I've been using strips for years and while they generally work, occasionally a stubborn goat's head or screw or something works its way in. And those things are kinda heavy - especially when you add in tube weight. I did not have the best luck with tubeless the last time I tried, but am going to give it another shot. Obviously it can be done reliably.

Comments, suggestions, criticisms welcome. Thanks for riding along!
 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
Just ordered my new frame from a local shop. They're having supply issues with some other things, so this may be a slow burn, but I should have a frame Wednesday! I was also cautioned about buying Mavic wheels these days and would be interested in hearing what the peanut gallery has to say about that. I'm certainly not set on them, but have a set on my Yeti that I really dig & figured why not do it again?
 
not sure why you'd choose Mavic wheels other than price. I can't think of any reason to chose those. what is the internal width on those, 25mm? there are a dozen or two variables to consider with rims and tires, but most seem to agree that 25mm rims are optimized for 2.2-2.3" tires. if you want modern wide tires like 2.4+, you'll benefit from a little more width on the rim.
 
tubeless doesn't do much, if anything, to "save weight." it saves you a lot of hassle though. ANY modern wheelset that is worth buying at all with have tubeless-ready rims that do not require special rim strips. most wheelsets come pre-taped for tubeless as well.
 
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not sure why you'd choose Mavic wheels other than price. I can't think of any reason to chose those. what is the internal width on those, 25mm? there are a dozen or two variables to consider with rims and tires, but most seem to agree that 25mm rims are optimized for 2.2-2.3" tires. if you want modern wide tires like 2.4+, you'll benefit from a little more width on the rim.
I landed on the Mavics because I have a set on my Yeti and like them. I'm by no means set on them, but seemed like a good place to start. The shop I'm working with recommended the DT Swiss M1900. Good lookin' out on the rim width too. I think I would like to go with a larger tire.
 
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tubeless doesn't do much, if anything, to "save weight." it saves you a lot of hassle though. ANY modern wheelset that is worth buying at all with have tubeless-ready rims that do not require special rim strips. most wheelsets come pre-taped for tubeless as well.
The reason I figured I might save some weight is that I use those puncture-resistant strips between the tube and tire and they're kinda heavy. Removing tubes and the strips should make for a lighter setup - at least in my head.
 
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Hooooooly cow wheels have gotten expensive. I did not shop this part of it well enough. I went into this thinking 3-400 beer tokens would get me a nice set of hoops. But ya can't even get a nice rear hub for under 200. Thought about just building there too, but not sure I'll save any money. Clearly this part is going to require a lot more poking around. That whole microspline business is going to complicate things as well so that's back on the table. Thanks again for the heads up on these fellas.
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
I would get the XT wheels. Keep in mind that they are microspline only... unlikely to ever be able to convert them to Sram XD driver. Not that you'd want to though

They have 30mm inner width, which is what you should be looking for. $400 is a great price. I love Mavic as a company, but they haven't kept up with the times unfortunately.

There is an entier thread dedicated to teh Timberjack in the Salsa forum
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
Way cool, thanks for all that. I found them cheaper even, and in stock, but not sure about Universal Cycles...never heard of them. Then again it looks like they run at least one big store. Might just give them a call and see if they seem legit if I can't find them locally.

Yeah, that's what the shop I was talking with earlier said about Mavic - that and proprietary spokes and/or nipples. And he said something about one of the business units having financial difficulties - which could make proprietary parts hard to come by if they do go tits up. My Crossrides have been great though - nothing bad to say about them. They're a few years old, so maybe that makes a difference, but they're good by me.

I'll have to go over & check out that Timberjack - thanks again.
 
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Sweet, good to know. That wheelset they have on clearance is the race version actually and maybe older? Skinny little rims though so that's right out. They do have the front in stock though. Rear I haven't found yet.

Still hoping to get lucky locally. I do like to use local shops as long as their prices aren't too crazy...been quoted some prices here over retail.
 
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Got a few more things settled on & ordered up. Looks like XT wheels it is. Scored the set for $430 shipped (had to pay $20 oversize shipping for wheels). Group is on the way as well. SLX 1 x 12 most of the way, but XT rear derailleur. This will be my first 1x - hope I like it. I do ride a good bit of steep stuff, so I'm a little concerned about climbing, but I'm hoping the 10 - 51T cassette will be good there. Mounting a 30 up front.

I decided to use some parts off another bike 'till next pay period to keep it under $2500 in the short term. In all likelihood though this will take a few weeks to put together (mostly finding and waiting on parts), so that may not even need to happen. I'm also getting this idea in my head of using a nicer fork - maybe something closer to my Fox Float 34, so this may wind up being a bit more than I had in mind at the end. Decisions... I'm going to sleep on the fork thing for a bit - not convinced the Fox is twice as nice. 4 other bikes here I can ride, so no need to rush this.

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