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Id bet you can play with oil Volume to add some ramp up. At least I would ASSUME that. Paired with the fluid focus bottom out bumper I'm sure it would at least ease the sting. At least that's the consensus I've gathered reading this thread. @Dougal ? @boostinmini ?
I don’t own a Dorado yet, but if I’m going to convert my enduro into a DH bike, it’s my likely fork. I’m coil-curious, but I think the Comp’s damper is the main reason for the low price. Seems like the better damper is a worthwhile upgrade since it adds HBO.
 
I don’t own a Dorado yet, but if I’m going to convert my enduro into a DH bike, it’s my likely fork. I’m coil-curious, but I think the Comp’s damper is the main reason for the low price. Seems like the better damper is a worthwhile upgrade since it adds HBO.
I'm hoping to find a little more feedback from people that have messed with the comp. I have quite a bit of time to research now that bike park season is over. I for sure am going to add the bottom out bumpers and hopefully can tweak oil volumes to gain some ramp at the end of stroke.

I currently own 4 coil forks. Marzocchi 888 (2005) Marzocchi 380, Marzocchi Z1 and now the Dorado. I owned an old Dorado, Fox 40 coil and briefly a Boxxer, but no longer have them so I can't directly compare. I can say without a doubt the dorado feels the best of them and the adjustments have a range that actually does something. As it should be brand new. Granted, I assume the damper in these forks are all vastly different but I am not disappointed at all with the ABS+ "yet". The Z1 coil being an example of a coil fork that I was quite disappointed in immediately. I'll reiterate, if I hadn't read this thread, I likely wouldn't think the dorado needs anything.

To start I am really just looking to add the fluid focus bumper to prevent any metal on metal hard stop internally than run it and see how things feel without being messed with otherwise. I don't want to assume it needs something for my style of riding until I actually see if I can find it's limits.

As for being coil curious, do it. I try to not impart bias but I've yet to ride an air spring that I haven't taken off in place of a coil in rather short notice. It takes a bit of effort and time but I think it's worth it, especially in longer travel applications.
 
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Id bet you can play with oil Volume to add some ramp up. At least I would ASSUME that. Paired with the fluid focus bottom out bumper I'm sure it would at least ease the sting. At least that's the consensus I've gathered reading this thread. @Dougal ? @boostinmini ?
Oil volume ramp up is very easy to achieve.
The skill was stopping it being too much.
 
Might want to read this thread about the problems I've been having with the open bath dampers.
Might want to read this thread about the problems I've been having with the open bath dampers.

I'll have to circle back and re read it, I ran through rather quick as I was looking for comp specific stuff. Not having really any time on it yet I'm just trying to plan ahead in case I do feel like I need to change things. I might be making a problem in my head out of nothing.
 
Open bath damper way easier for servicing and changing oil. Add the amazing performance, seems no brainer to me. Air as good as coil? Hasn’t happened yet.
 
Building up a new bike and am stuck between a stock dorado pro vs an avalanche dorado comp. Pro is lighter, has the bleed ports. Comp is coil and avy magic. Thoughts from those that have run them?
I feel like you can’t go wrong either way, just depends what your preferences are and what bike it’s going on.

Dh bike where you’re riding rough terrain? Coil with Avy sounds tough to beat.

Super enduro bike where you’re more conscious of weight and not only ripping gnarly descents? The Pro with a shockcraft tuned damper might be a better option, as it saves 1.5-2lbs. While the stock TPC+ is good, it’s not as good an an Avy IME. With a custom tune, I imagine it closes the gap.
 
The pro is basically open, similarly almost no
Maintenance. If you can stomach the extra 800g and are just setting up for DH, sure (price is about the same), but if you’re going more enduro, I’d still consider the Pro.
 
Thanks for the thoughts - going on a DH bike, 50% tech 50% medium (e.g. a-line / dirt merchant) jumps.

Comp + Avy comes out to ~ $500 more than a stock Pro.

My current (enduro) bike has a 180mm Fox 38 with a smashpot and Avy damper and is amazing. That stated, I'm leaning towards a stock Pro to cut down the cost a little and possibly make the bike a bit more lively. I was thinking the air spring might give it a little more pop. Am I thinking of that wrong?

I value playfulness over outright speed. While weight isn't much of a concern I don't mind losing the 2lb either.
 
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I've never quite understood the air & pop connection.
The coil is lower friction, so in theory should be poppier.

Is it that an undersized negative air induces a slightly high spring rate before top out that kicks the bike? Surely adding extra preload does something similar.

What is pop?
 
Air is poppy because it’s progressive - more return force and equal travel compared to a coil. If you then choose to utilize a quick rebound with that higher return force, you get to pop off more trail features. I run a Zeb with a smashpot and I love it, but if I was looking to do jump lines, I’d choose air.
 
Does anybody know if you can pop a coil into the Dorado Pro if you’re wanting to change? Just got an offer for a free upgrade from the Comp to the Pro, but was planning to do the Comp+Avy. Wondering if I should do the Pro and drop a coil into it if I don’t love the air.
 
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