[SoobieNeil]

Hi,

I just bought a set of Magura MT7's 2nd hand. They don't have either reach or bite point tool-less knobs for adjusting those two settings. Where the bite point knob would be, there is this cap that is spring loaded. Using your fingers, you can press and rotate it. 1/2 turn will allow the cap to pop off revealing a spring and a post. The spring easily pops out. The post can't be turned by hand. I don't know if the post is the bite point adjust so I put the cap back on and jumped on the internet. I haven't found any info on non-tool-less MT7 Lever bite point adjust. In order to adjust bite point, do I need to get the knob from Magura or do I need some kind of tool to turn the knob?

Thanks!

 

[SoobieNeil]

Looking in my manual, there is a section on flipping your bite point knob from being on one side of the lever to the other for those that run their brake levers backwards (the left brake lever on the right and the right brake lever on the left). The assembly diagram shows a rod with a knob next to a rod without the knob being inserted into a hole in the lever. The spring and end cap are there to keep it from falling out. The manual refers to it as the BAT.

I found on a german bike store site a "BAT Kit"
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Magura/BAT-Kit-fuer-MT6-MT7-p44512/
Here's the kit.

It really doesn't look any different than the piece my levers came with except for the fact that it has a knob. I was expecting some kind of cam or something.

Each one is $8. Shipping is $20... so it's not cheap!

Thoughts?

 

[SoobieNeil]

I take that back. In some pictures I've found on the internet, it does look camed. There's part of the lever that protrudes into the path of the adjustment knob cam profile. The cam essentially starts to close the lever a slight bit. I think this "BAT kit" will work. I called magura's customer support and emailed some pictures of my knobless levers. I am hoping they can sell me the part as a repair item. Should know by tomorrow.

 

[SoobieNeil]

Magura's USA customer service is generous and is sending me a couple BAT knobs.

 

[kiwim5]

Hey how did the BAT kit work out?

 

[SoobieNeil]

Great! Added the bite point adjustment that I was looking for! These brakes are excellent by the way. The calipers are on the heavy side I suppose, but they really do the job.

 

[kiwim5]

Thats good news. So I presume it makes a bit more of a difference than Shimano adjusters then?

So when you installed the BAT is it straight forward (only 3 parts so cant be that difficult).

I've had my MT7's on few a few rides but feel like I need the bite point to get them perfecto. I read somewhere in past few weeks that the one-finger lever is due out for the MT7's at Interbike - that might help me too.

Cheers

 

[SoobieNeil]

Never had the shimanos. Shimanos seemed like on/off switches to me when I demo'd them... I''ve read they're good once you get the swing of things

Actually, that dummy piece that sits in place of the BAT is the only piece you replace. The kit comes with the spring and the cap, but you really only need the BAT.

Just sitting on a bike stand, the difference between the two extremes is noticeable. I set my front brake up to bite right away. And set the rear up to bite as slow as possible. I did that because I was having a hard time with the rear brake locking up too soon. Initially I wanted more adjustment out of them... I felt like the front brake still wasn't as aggressive as I wanted it and vise versa for the rear. Now that I've been using them for many many rides, I am pretty used to the feel, but haven't really thought I needed to change them. I think I still kinda wish the front was more aggressive and the rear less so. But on very steep DH trails, like some trails I've done at Mt. Creek & Wisp when I had these on, I appreciated every bit of aggressiveness out of the rear.

I heard they were going to make a lever revision that would bring the part of the lever that your fingers sit on even closer to the handle bar. I didn't know they were making a 1 finger lever. That would be cool! Look how far the levers sit on my MT7's vs my Elixer 5's. I'm lucky my grip/fingers are as large as they are, otherwise these wouldn't work for me. As they are right now, I can keep my index finger on the lever and lock up either wheel at will by pulling hard enough. That was only possible with my avid rear brake. But the avids had about an inch of slop before anything would happen. The MT7s start to bite just about right away. They were a huge upgrade.

If you could link me to the article from interbike, that would be cool. It isn't an upgrade I'm Dying to make. I think not having to reach as far for the lever would still be helpful.

 

[kiwim5]

I had Saints which were good but still had the Shimano on/off but I certainly prefer the MT7.

It was EuroBike (dont know where I got Interbike from) and here's an article talking about it (one-finger lever) with pics etc.

By the looks of it, it will be similar/same style as Shimano's for length (which I like) so if I can get the BAT bit sorted to go with those I reckon it will be braking heaven. I've only had mine for a few weeks so not sure whether I have the 2015 or 2016 setup, I certainly like them more than my Saints but a BAT is icing on the cake so will order them.

Thanks for the pic/help .. much appreciated :thumbsup:

 

[SoobieNeil]

Man! I'd totally get a set of those levers. Basically what I do, if you can't tell, is run the levers so that Only my index finger grabs lever. Bringing it in would probably make modulation easier.

Interesting Magura came out with a Trail brake setup. I was thinking that I could get one of the smaller rear calipers if I felt like the two weren't matched up well enough. Looks like that's what they did for the Trail setup.

If you still have your saints, you could try a Frankenstein setup. I've seen at least one guy on here running saint levers with the magura caliper.

The reach thing is really the only complaint I have. I do like these brakes a lot!