i'm 5'9" and i'm on a large

 

Its better to go demo one if possible. Too expensive not to.

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I think at that point it’s personal preference. I personally despise long stems, but I know other people who like them. My riding style is very aggressive with jumping at every chance, and for that, the short stem just plain feels right.


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I agree on the stem part, but wonder what you consider long. Are we at the point where a 60mm stem is considered long? I'm thinking I'll go with a 35mm or so on the large. Going to talk with the shop some more, and maybe call Ibis one more time.

Hope to have some pics to post up with build soon...

 

I run a 35 stem on my large

 

Went from a 40 to a 50 on my medium. Not too much difference. Gonna give it some time to see.

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anybody in the market for a large frame
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2272506/

 

That was quick

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That was quick

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I usually only keep bikes for 5-6 months and then try something different. Terrible addiction I know

 

Thanks for the input.
The effective top tube difference between M and L is 24mm, and the reach difference is 20mm.
The L HD4 is 27mm more reach than my Ripley L, and 9mm longer effective top tube (M is 7mm more reach & 15mm shorter effective top tube).

 

I wish this became mainstream, I'd be all about it:

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Size L in red ordered. Went w/ 40mm stem.
NX kit with upgrade to RC2 and X2. Working on a list of upgrades as budget allows. Already have a set of new XTs to use instead of the Levels.

 

Nice! The levels aren't terrible. I swapped rotors to icetech 203/180, and really improved brake feel- so much so that I'm leaving the level brakes on there until they take a crap. I'm definitely not a fan of the nx rear derailleur, as I have to do an adjustment every time I ride. Also, good choice on the x2 over the dpx2. That dpx2 has all but driven me insane trying to fine tune it. I am 200lbs and ride really hard, though.

Oh, and be prepared for that lighter red to be bright orange looking.

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Great choice!
I’m on a large red with 40mm stem and I’m just under 5’10”.
Enjoy! It’s an awesome bike!

 

In the process of trying out a few bikes to find the right one here in NC. So far l've take the Mach 5.5 out for a demo, another tomorrow but no dealers local with an HD4 at this time.

Wasn't there a black HD4 l have seen in some reviews? I don't hate the silver/gray but like a more stealthy looking bike than poppy colors.

Also are there any riders who have an HD4 or tested one who are a bigger guy like myself? I am guessing the rear shock for my size will have to be the DOX2 or maybe a DHX2; l'm not quite Peter Griffin but 6ft, 260.

 

I currently have 180/160 rotors. Does going 203/180 make that much of a difference? I was thinking of going 180/180 instead.

Im also on a resin and semi metallic mix. It feels perfect but dont like how one side wears faster than the other and that one piston is pushed out further. Dont really want to go full semi-metallic, might be too grabby. Thinking upping my rear rotor might allow me to go back to resin pads.

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Personally, I think there's a big difference between a 180 and 203 on the front. 203 allows me to brake later before a turn. The drop in speed between a 180 and 203 is significant in my experience. I've got the 203 front / 180 rear combo on all my bikes, even the smaller trail bike just because it's more effective in dropping speed.

Don't have first hand experience on running mixed pad sets, but since the bigger rotor provides more leverage, I don't see why you couldn't go to back to full resin setup and still have increased braking performance.

 

New beauty arrived!

Just finished it, was not able to ride it yet due to fault in rear shock which came out after built

 

Just finished it, was not able to ride it yet due to fault in rear shock which came out after built

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What was the fault in shock?

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I dont know yet, tomorrow I will go to the dealer and we will disassembly it. But for now when the shock is moving, strange noise is going out of it. Like a click noise.

 

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How’s the MRP cartridge feel in the 36?

 

GChuckyB, thanks for the heads-up on the demo in TN. I'm trying a shop who sells Pivot and Ibis tomorrow in the mountains for l would much rather take a bike out for a day over just an hour. I may see if l can make that happen and curious to compare to HD4 to the Mach 5.6@5 and Mach 6 l just took out.

Color isnt everything but wish there was a carbon or black HD4 available.

Thanks again!

 

Color isnt everything but wish there was a carbon or black HD4 available.

To each their own. I just ordered my Mojo 3 in red instead of the matte black. For some reason, I just feel the unique shape and lines on Ibis frames pop more with bright colours. I would have taken the Silver/Black HD4, though full silver would be better IMO.

Also I have this paranoia that if I every crashed and needed help in the middle of the woods, someone would find me easier with bright colors. That's why I'm stockpiling on lime green jerseys and hot pink shorts to match my red Mojo3.

 

I hear ya, some are just a bit too "pretty" for me but I do like some of the brighter colors on some bikes. I really swore I saw an HD4 in some articles that was black. They would have been from this spring/summer, not 12-18 months ago which is why I thought it was an HD4, not the 3. I need to ride and HD4 and maybe a Mojo 3 for I don't believe there's much difference except for the build kits but I'm looking for a DPX2 in the rear and a Fox 36 up front with upgraded brakes so I'm hitting up some of the build your own sites online now.

 

I haven't ridden the HD4, but based on the amount of travel and geometry...there is much difference between the Mojo 3 and HD4. If you're comparing to the older HD3, then main difference was the travel.

If you want the Fox36 and DPX2, then HD4 is the way to go. You can do a custom build with the Mojo3 I'm sure, but you're going to pay a big premium.

 

Ive owned the m4 prior to the h4. M3 is more agile and playful and h4 is more stable at high speeds. M3 os closer to rowdy xc and h4 closer to rowdy downhill. I like the h4 more for my style of trails.

The black h4 you saw was reviewed ny mike levy i think. That was a prototype or preproduction build. If u want the dpx2 and fox36, that probably puts you closer to the hd4. The only concern i had was its climbing ability. Its unfounded, climbs great. In fact, im currently out riding. Only 1hr of daylight left. Have fun on your build.

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smoothmoose, I just was building up one online and you are very very right, premium indeed without a specific kit including those I mentioned. I'm thinking a LBS could upgrade me to the DPX2 however I don't think I want to build up one from a frame, way too much $$$. Just hoping to be able to ride a Mojo 3 and HD4 in the coming weeks.

 

jacksonlui, great info! I thought at one time it could have been a limited pre-release build but will definitely check out both models, my size tells me to go with the HD4 but only if they'd just make an HD3.5. Anyways enjoy the ride and the sunset and thanks for the info!

 

 

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My build is going to look just like yours, kashima post, with green grips, well done! I love the silver and lime.

 

Anyone running 2.8 front / 2.6 rear?
Does it feel too slack or imbalanced?

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Different ratio but, I've been riding 2.5wt front / 2.3 rear and it feels killer. Very balanced.

 

I think the 2.8 has a slightly larger diameter than the 2.6, not 100% sure. The 2.5 and 2.3 should have the same diameter.

I want to go from a 160mm icetech rotor in the back to a 180mm and will require a Shimano Adapter. Does anyone have a part number? Ibis hasn't responded to my email in over a week. I want to go 180 front and 180 back for a little more stopping power.

 

i think the 2.8 has a slightly larger diameter than the 2.6, not 100% sure. The 2.5 and 2.3 should have the same diameter.

I want to go from a 160mm icetech rotor in the back to a 180mm and will require a shimano adapter. Does anyone have a part number? Ibis hasn't responded to my email in over a week. I want to go 180 front and 180 back for a little more stopping power.

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