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Hi Carl
interested in your comments XL vs L. How tall are you? Did you demo?
Sure thing. I demo'd a L. It was ok but I felt like a lot of post was showing and the cockpit a bit cramped. Today I received my XL. Trust me it was a painstaking choice to size-up. Anyway, I knew the TT/Reach was good but a bit unsure of the seat tube measurements. With frame in hand, I feel like ST is exactly right - I like about 20''. Hair over but nothing significant. I'm about 6'1.5''. Sometimes the Dr. measures me at 6'2'' if I've been doing yoga; most my life I've classified as 6'1''.

Truth is - I could ride either size. I wanted more reach and shorter stem so I spun the wheel of chance. If I bought the large the TT/Reach would have been shorter than any bike I currently own and most of those close have longish stem. Switching the tables this time around.
 
Sure thing. I demo'd a L. It was ok but I felt like a lot of post was showing and the cockpit a bit cramped. Today I received my XL. Trust me it was a painstaking choice to size-up. Anyway, I knew the TT/Reach was good but a bit unsure of the seat tube measurements. With frame in hand, I feel like ST is exactly right - I like about 20''. Hair over but nothing significant. I'm about 6'1.5''. Sometimes the Dr. measures me at 6'2'' if I've been doing yoga; most my life I've classified as 6'1''.

Truth is - I could ride either size. I wanted more reach and shorter stem so I spun the wheel of chance. If I bought the large the TT/Reach would have been shorter than any bike I currently own and most of those close have longish stem. Switching the tables this time around.
Thanks. I ended up with a L and I'm 6'. Running a 60mm stem with 750mm bars and 150mm dropper post. Feels good. I might have just squeezed into an XL if I ran a 40mm stem and 125mm dropper, so always curious for info from people who decided the other way. Probably the only thing that swayed me to the large was stack height. It feels just right on the large with a 5mm spacer under the stem with a 20mm rise bar. The XL stack height probably would have been too much - I would have had to run a very flat bar or negative rise stem.
 
I too went with L @ 6'/ 33" inseam and a 60mm stem. I will try a 70mm stem because coming from roadbikes, I like to layout a little more flat across the back. I fully agree that >6' is the tipping point to XL and not 6' -2" per the charts.
 
I'm 6' 2-3" from the hip up (long torso/arms, short legs)... Going with Large, 125mm drop, 55mm stem, 785 bars.

It's funny... I remember with 710 felt wide. Now 740mm bars feel stupid narrow.
 
Just got my XL built up. It's looking good!

So who's running a bash/chainguide? And if so what are you using? I tried installing my MRP guide but found that the pivot above the BB interferes with the chain guide. I removed the guide to keep the bash for now, but curious if there's another solution that would work better. I suppose I could go with one that mounts to the FD mount. Or just skip it and hope for the best!

Photo of the guide-less plate, which still touches the pivot:

 
I'm using the MRP AMg guide and taco bash and it works great. Totally silent for me.

I probably don't need the chainguide but nice to have the extra protection just in case. Very happy I have the taco bash though. Definitely has saved the chainring a few times on log strikes.
 
I'm using the MRP AMg guide and taco bash and it works great. Totally silent for me.

I probably don't need the chainguide but nice to have the extra protection just in case. Very happy I have the taco bash though. Definitely has saved the chainring a few times on log strikes.
Huh, this is odd to me as that's what I have installed in the photo above (MRP AMg guide). I find that installing it without any spacers to the plate on the HD3 leads to contact with the lower pivot bolt, per the photo. Furthermore, if I install the chain guide it's too far outboard, so it rubs the chain when in climbing gears. And since it's already installed with no spacers I can't move it inboard.

I do have the carbon version of this guide, which I think might have a thicker plate than the aluminum one. That could move the whole thing out by a mm or 2. I'm running this with GXP/X0 cranks FWIW.
 
Huh, this is odd to me as that's what I have installed in the photo above (MRP AMg guide). I find that installing it without any spacers to the plate on the HD3 leads to contact with the lower pivot bolt, per the photo. Furthermore, if I install the chain guide it's too far outboard, so it rubs the chain when in climbing gears. And since it's already installed with no spacers I can't move it inboard.

I do have the carbon version of this guide, which I think might have a thicker plate than the aluminum one. That could move the whole thing out by a mm or 2. I'm running this with GXP/X0 cranks FWIW.
I'm using a GXP/X01 crank with the aluminum AMg. I'll take a pic of mine later to see if there is anything that sticks out to you
 
wait... you're 6' 3" with a long torso and you're going with a large???? That seems way too small.
I'm 5' 10", but oddly proportioned.

6' 2-3" from the hip up. Probably 5' 7-8" from the hip down (30" jean inseam).

I have to trade off reach for saddle and stack height. If I go with an XL, I usually have the stem slammed and flipped (neg rise) and am usually limited for dropper post options. An XL Bronson fit me great, but I had difficulty getting the bars low enough and could only run a 100mm dropper.
 
Huh, this is odd to me as that's what I have installed in the photo above (MRP AMg guide). I find that installing it without any spacers to the plate on the HD3 leads to contact with the lower pivot bolt, per the photo. Furthermore, if I install the chain guide it's too far outboard, so it rubs the chain when in climbing gears. And since it's already installed with no spacers I can't move it inboard.

I do have the carbon version of this guide, which I think might have a thicker plate than the aluminum one. That could move the whole thing out by a mm or 2. I'm running this with GXP/X0 cranks FWIW.
Here are some pics of mine



Clearance is tight, for sure
 
Huh, this is odd to me as that's what I have installed in the photo above (MRP AMg guide). I find that installing it without any spacers to the plate on the HD3 leads to contact with the lower pivot bolt, per the photo. Furthermore, if I install the chain guide it's too far outboard, so it rubs the chain when in climbing gears. And since it's already installed with no spacers I can't move it inboard.

I do have the carbon version of this guide, which I think might have a thicker plate than the aluminum one. That could move the whole thing out by a mm or 2. I'm running this with GXP/X0 cranks FWIW.
I'm running the carbon AMG guide on my HD3 too and it's tight but it fits. I'm using the smallest spacers they included and it's got clearance from the pivot link bolt head, but tight. Running RF Next SL cranks & BB.

You may have your guide too low. I tried setting mine real close to the chain and it was rubbing in the climbing gear. Moved it up a touch and it was fine. :thumbsup:
 
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