i prefer to have more than necessary, great brakes for the alps especially steeper areas such as chamonix

 

I dont blame you! Ive been pondering about saints or zees for myself. I could use a little more than what xt gives me. I also hear the modulation is better.

 

hurrah-hurrah. Frame arrived.

Quick impressions before build:

Size XL is going to be perfect. Happy I didn't go with the large.

Frame came w/ downtube protector and now I have two - probably return that extra as I thought it wasn't included.

Man, that yolk is stupid close to the seat tube. Like 1mm clearance.

Rear axle is not Maxle.

Came w/ seat binder plus a packet I need to flip through.

That's all before the pics/build. Cheers.

 

Man, that yolk is stupid close to the seat tube. Like 1mm clearance.

Wait 'till you see how close your rear rotor comes to touching....about half of what you see on that yoke. But it all works out fine.

 

I too went with L @ 6'/ 33" inseam and a 60mm stem. I will try a 70mm stem because coming from roadbikes, I like to layout a little more flat across the back. I fully agree that >6' is the tipping point to XL and not 6' -2" per the charts.

 

I'm 6' 2-3" from the hip up (long torso/arms, short legs)... Going with Large, 125mm drop, 55mm stem, 785 bars.

It's funny... I remember with 710 felt wide. Now 740mm bars feel stupid narrow.

 

wait... you're 6' 3" with a long torso and you're going with a large???? That seems way too small.

 

Just got my XL built up. It's looking good!

So who's running a bash/chainguide? And if so what are you using? I tried installing my MRP guide but found that the pivot above the BB interferes with the chain guide. I removed the guide to keep the bash for now, but curious if there's another solution that would work better. I suppose I could go with one that mounts to the FD mount. Or just skip it and hope for the best!

Photo of the guide-less plate, which still touches the pivot:

 

I'm using the MRP AMg guide and taco bash and it works great. Totally silent for me.

I probably don't need the chainguide but nice to have the extra protection just in case. Very happy I have the taco bash though. Definitely has saved the chainring a few times on log strikes.

 

I'm using the MRP AMg guide and taco bash and it works great. Totally silent for me.

I probably don't need the chainguide but nice to have the extra protection just in case. Very happy I have the taco bash though. Definitely has saved the chainring a few times on log strikes.

Huh, this is odd to me as that's what I have installed in the photo above (MRP AMg guide). I find that installing it without any spacers to the plate on the HD3 leads to contact with the lower pivot bolt, per the photo. Furthermore, if I install the chain guide it's too far outboard, so it rubs the chain when in climbing gears. And since it's already installed with no spacers I can't move it inboard.

I do have the carbon version of this guide, which I think might have a thicker plate than the aluminum one. That could move the whole thing out by a mm or 2. I'm running this with GXP/X0 cranks FWIW.

 

I'm using a GXP/X01 crank with the aluminum AMg. I'll take a pic of mine later to see if there is anything that sticks out to you

 

Honestly - unless you are racing, I'd try running it without a guide first... no need to spend the $$$ and add the weight if you don't even have a problem... I have yet to drop a chain yet

 

I do plan do to some Enduro racing with this bike. And, I'm more interested in the bash protection to be honest; lots of logs here in the PNW.

 

Better than Inline !

 

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Better than Inline !

Did you have the Inline? How is the Kirk better?

 

same for me. the AMG touchs the lower pivot bolt but that's not a problem. it works fine.

 

Did you have to customize the Kirk at all for the HD3? I remember reading somewhere that there was a problem with the Kirk fitting into the yolk.

 

Yes, BOS did it for me. I must be the first except ACC who ride a Kirk on his HD3.

It's hard to explain but the Kirk is really far better than he Inline, everywhere... I really didn't like the feeling I had riding the Inline in rock gardens. With the Kirk, everything is easier, you can go faster !

Ibis Mojo HD3 "black vitamin P" 2015 - seb24s's Bike Check - Vital MTB

 

 

Sounds amazing. Do you know if BOS is going to make changes the Kirk, so it will fit the HD3 off the shelf? If so, I'd be interested in making the switch.

 

Well, built and ridden. It's a very balanced bike. Super awesome cornering and very good pedaling. The XL size was spot on. Still dialing in the stem length - currently have my DJ's 40 on it. Corners like it's on rails and is playful. The fit and finish is nice - super stoked on the internal routing.

That said, I'm having some issues w/ the suspension tho. First, the CC DB Inline makes a pretty wheezy noise in the beginning of the stroke. Not sure if this is normal with this shock but I do know that most of the shocks I'm familiar with would be fixing this issue; it's off putting. Calling CC today. Also, while pedaling is awesome and great in other less demanding features, I didn't feel like the bike had anything close to a bottomless feel using the stock configuration. Blew through travel too much and also felt rough when it got chunky. At a 150mm travel, my expectation is much higher for not transmitting so much terrain noise to the rider. For comparison, my Canfield One handles all the terrain I rode plus a magnitude of 10X like it's riding on a cushion; granted more travel but I can tell the Ibis isn't riding at it's potential.

As you can see, a very respectable weight. This is complete (with pedals/sealant/everything in XL w/ Al rims) and with a heavy stem that will be replaced.

Highlights of the build are as follows:

Green HD3 XL
Cane Creek Inline
Rockshox Pike 150 RCT3
XO1 Drivertrain
170mm cranks w/ Chromag 30T direct mount XSYNC ring
XT brakes 180/160 F/R respectively
Chris King F hub w/ Pacenti TL28 tubeless
2.35 Nobby Nic Front
Hadley Rear hub w/ Pacenti TL28 tubeless
2.25 Nobby Nic Rear
KindShock Supernatural 150mm
Time MX6 Pedals
Chris King Inset Headset
Currently has Spank Spoon Stem 40mm but Syntace Stem coming
Carbon Havoc bars lowrise 750

I was after a longer travel, grab & go no questions asked and you best be having a lot of fun. I think I got that but still have much higher expectations on the suspension regarding hits and chunk.

 

That said, I'm having some issues w/ the suspension tho. First, the CC DB Inline makes a pretty wheezy noise in the beginning of the stroke. Not sure if this is normal with this shock but I do know that most of the shocks I'm familiar with would be fixing this issue; it's off putting. Calling CC today. Also, while pedaling is awesome and great in other less demanding features, I didn't feel like the bike had anything close to a bottomless feel using the stock configuration.

The wheezy noise seems pretty typical for the CC Inline. I've had two now and both have made it to varying degrees. The newer one on my HD3 is actually noisier than the one on my HDR by a tiny bit. FWIW, my last Fox Float made similar sounds.

As for the feel, I think this is where the Inline needs some dialing by everyone for their own prefs. Out of the box on the HD3 mine initially felt good with no issues raised, but after a few decent rides I can tell I'm going to need to start tweaking a few settings, but I'm going to hold off until I have a few more miles on it and it's settled in a bit.

I was after a longer travel, grab & go no questions asked and you best be having a lot of fun. I think I got that but still have much higher expectations on the suspension regarding hits and chunk.

Same goals for this bike; a quintessential modern Do-It-All bike that will play almost anywhere. Overall, I freakin LOVE the handling of the bike and just want to ride the damn thing all day.

...But with the CC Inline some will definitely need to tweak things more than others. All depends on what you want, where you're coming from etc.

You'll get it sorted. :thumbsup:

 

The wheezy noise seems pretty typical for the CC Inline. I've had two now and both have made it to varying degrees.
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Same goals for this bike; a quintessential modern Do-It-All bike that will play almost anywhere. Overall, I freakin LOVE the handling of the bike and just want to ride the damn thing all day.
...But with the CC Inline some will definitely need to tweak things more than others. All depends on what you want, where you're coming from etc.

You'll get it sorted. :thumbsup:

Oh yeah, it's a great handling bike - superb actually. Super pleased with that and I don't mind going through the process of dialing it in; so long as I know the shock is functioning correctly. The CaneCreek people seem to think it's ok but to let it break in and maybe a little light lube to facilitate movement - we'll see.

It does relieve my mind a little to hear yours is similar and fine (tho the guy below has a silent one - damn).

Pretty happy with the build/function... next step - suspension to meet my needs.

Cheers!

 

Damn, I need to weigh my bike on your scale...no way mine is accurate after seeing all you guys with similar set-ups well under 30. My bike FEELS sub-30, I know that.

FYI, my CC is absolutely silent. I have a Pushed Fox Float that wheezes, but it seems to be more of an annoyance than an actual impact on performance.

 

worth the wait

wheels; I9 Enduro with blue ano hubs, every other spoke blue
tires; Maxxis Ardent 2.4 rear, Maxxis High Roller II 2.4 fron
Seatpost; reverb Stealth
Saddle: Cromag Trailmaster
Full XO1 build 1 X11
Brakes; SRAM Guide
Bar: 35 MM Raceface
Petals: blue ano Raceface
Cranketset: Raceface Turbine 32T
Shock: Cane Creek Inline
Fork:Rock shok Pike 160MM

Weight with petals 28 lbs

 

Yeah the wheezy air/oil pumping sound the DB Inline makes is apparently as designed, especially when the Climb switch is off. It's effected by shock setup too. Asked the Cane Creek guys about it a while back (including sending a video of the sound mine makes, below) as I wondered the same.

Our shocks move a lot more oil than others, so they are inherently louder.

Here's mine (factory settings), pretty much the same as other HD3's I've come across running the DB Inline

 

Hey DH, the video came up as "Private". at least on my computer.

 

Yup. Me too. Private. I have a CC DBInline on my SL-R and it does make more noise than I'm used too. I was considering taking it in to the shop and seeing if it was having a cavitation problem. However, if yours sounds like mine, perhaps that's the way it is supposed to be.

 

sorry guys video should be available now

 

Thanks, Pete. Yep, that's about how mine sounds too. I guess I won't worry about it unless the mechanic at the LBS whom I ride with occasionally hears it and says he wants to fix it.

 

Thanks, Pete. Yep, that's about how mine sounds too.

Exactly the same as mine. That's just the Inline noise!

 

I think mine is pretty quiet, but it may be the Fox 36 drowning it out. Push treated forks have be noisy too. I just think its the sound of good dampers working.

 

I'd agree that my initial impression was that the CC with base tune was less plush than some other bikes I've ridden. I didn't mind this particularly, as I like a supportive suspension feel that doesn't just numb the trail to nothing. I also find that the faster/more aggressively you ride the better it feels. You ever check out EWS or DH pro's setups? They're really really stiff, and feel pretty harsh at "just riding along" pace, but give the support needed for hauling' the mail.

That said, the CC is super adjustable and you should be able to dial it in. Try reducing HSC to nothing (fully open), and take a click or two off LSC.

Curious to hear experiences with other shocks though. The new Float X2 looks interesting, basically all the adjustability of a CC...

 

Yep, that's how mine sounds. Appreciate sharing the vid as it does puts my mind at ease.

I did a little increase of air pressure (10lbs) and have some more HSC (1/4 turn) and a minor shift of attitude. Good improvements - I think the shock wasn't bottoming or getting as close so less transition of impact to the rider.

As Drew says the supportive platform has a lot of perks - I absolutely slayed it on yesterday's ride - not super tech but poppy if you know where to find the opportunities. Amazingly fun, fast and planted.

Aside from suspension dialing-in, I'm down to small things like choosing my final stem length, trimming and de-noise-a-fying cables. I'm very, very pleased overall - best performing trail bike I've owned.