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Discussion starter · #22 ·
looks like the bottom bracket height for my anthem advanced sx 2015 is 300mm if that sounds about right... depending on where you are suppose to take the measurement? Is it suppose to be from the bottom (frame) of the bottom bracket? essentially the lowest part of the bike that's not the wheels?
 
#23 ·
Bottom bracket height is typically measured from the center of the BB, not the lowest point on the frame. It's also extremely difficult to measure accurately at home because the bike has to be perfectly vertical. Fortunately, Giant gives the BB drop for the Anthem SX, which is how much lower the BB is compared to the rear axle - that makes it easy to work out the (static) BB height. BB drop on the Anthem SX is 22mm, so if you measure the diameter of your rear wheel (with the tire on), divide by 2, and subtract 22mm, you will know the BB height of your bike. It'll probably be around 330mm.
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Frustrating comparing Giant and Ibis since Giant just gives the BB drop while Ibis just gives the BB height on their specs page.

Essentially trying to discern whether rock strikes would be less of an issue on the Mojo 3 compared to the Anthem SX. Looks like they'd be fairly similar in that aspect?

The Ibis Ripley seems to have even less BB height then Mojo 3
 
#25 ·
Kulharin said:
Frustrating comparing Giant and Ibis since Giant just gives the BB drop while Ibis just gives the BB height on their specs page.

Essentially trying to discern whether rock strikes would be less of an issue on the Mojo 3 compared to the Anthem SX. Looks like they'd be fairly similar in that aspect?

The Ibis Ripley seems to have even less BB height then Mojo 3
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honestly I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Like I said before I ride in Phoenix. Rocks galore. You learn to adjust a tad with each bike you own. It's essentially a non-issue. I highly suggest you buy the bike you enjoy riding the the most try not to fret over a few millimeters on paper,.besides there's other variables that go into it like the rear suspension. The m3 sits up pretty high as it doesn't wallow in its travel, this helps keep the pedals higher.

The days of bikes with 14in or more of bottom bracket height are largely gone. But if that's what you need there are still some out there you'll just have to search around.

Also if you're not tall change to 170 or 165 mm cranks. I did that and with thin XT SPD trail pedals it was a noticeable improvement
 
#28 ·
The BB is low in the stock config. It should come with a 1FiddyFork. There is quite a difference in handling characteristics both up and down betwixt a 140&150 and the 150 shines on both fronts and for the DH, it isn't even fair how much brighter it is. The 150 is the way IMO.
 
#29 ·
The 150mm fork does help with pedal strikes. I'd either do that or as previously suggested, use 170mm crank arms. Otherwise I think you will find that you will get an annoying number of pedal strikes...unless you live where there are no rocks.
 
#31 ·
I’ll answer that. I have a Mojo3 and I have ridden the newest Ripley a lot. I would say they climb about that same. However I feel way more in control going down chunk on the Mojo. Could be fit or what I am use to. On the Ripley I feel above the bike. On the Mojo I feel in the bike. When I had to get a new bike I went for another Mojo3.
 
#32 ·
About the same having owned and M3 and currently riding the ripley and the set ups being about the same. My position on both is pretty much over the crank spindle so the power is focused on the downward stroke/push. There about the same on being pretty upright which i find really comfortable. But a lot has to do with DW linkage riding high in its stroke when climbing as well. The M3 does spin up a bit easier and with tired legs will spin up quicker but i like the roll over of the larger wheel so its bit of a trade off IMO.

Also the talk of using a 150mm travel fork. When i went this route Ibis suggested using a for with a shorter offset and bumping up to a fox 36 or RS Pike. instant H3/4
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
I am finding it surprising the mojo 3 climbs comparable to the new Ripley? That's pretty impressive since the new Ripley is suppose to be a climbing beast... would have figured it' be closer to the Ripmo for climbing but that's good to know.
 
#34 ·
Kulharin said:
I am finding it surprising the mojo 3 climbs comparable to the new Ripley? That's pretty impressive since the new Ripley is suppose to be a climbing beast... would have figured it' be closer to the Ripmo for climbing but that's good to know.
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Haven't you read the news? Every new bike on the market climbs like a billygoat...on crack no less.

But seriously, does any relatively lightweight DW bike not climb well? I've read some minor complaints about some Pivots but never Ibis really. Maybe that's cuz Pivot simply has some bigger bikes going that lean more toward the plow-through-stuff side of things.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
I've tried a few bikes recently and not sure if it's more the tires but some bikes certainly feel more sluggish on the climb then others. Norco Optic 29 seems to get bogged down on the climbs but crushes downhill and technical sections, Trek Slash seemed to climb very well surprisingly; better then the Optic. Rocky Mt altitude chewed through any technical terrain up or down but again seemed pretty slow on the flowy sections and smooth climbs.

Would you consider the Mojo 3 to be a good middle ground between my anthem sx and the altitude? I really want something more capable then my anthem for technical and steeper terrain without loosing too much of the XC feel, agility and bursts of speed through the flowy sections.

Sux I can't demo a ripley or mojo 3 on the trails so now I am just trying bikes that may be slightly comparative.
 
#37 ·
Well some quick research shows the altitude to be a 150 / 160 bike and I'm not sure what the anthem is but I'm guessing it's a 120 ish XC style bike. So yes, on paper the mojo 3 would fit smack dab in the middle but I didn't look at the geo charts of the Anthem.

The mojo is plenty snappy for every day trail riding, especially if you setup your suspension on the firmer side and certainly capable of much more if you're willing to work the bike a bit. Light tires and wheels wouldn't hurt either but it just rides wonderfully (high) in its rear travel so getting up and going quickly is not a problem. It's the reason I chose it over the yeti sb5 and 5.5 that I test rode. To be fair those were only short demos and not on real trails, but those bikes just felt super planted to the ground to me and when I hopped on the m3 it was totally different. I was sold

I'm running the X2 rear shock and a 150 m m Pike just because of where I ride, so most people are probably on something different, probably even more snappy than the X2. I'm also considering a coil kit for the Pike and if I can ever get past the sticker shock of PUSH I'll pull the trigger for sure. Just suits my terrain better. So as you can see I lean towards the enduro side a bit with this bike but by no means is it one. Fits the bill perfectly for me right now. You can totally go the other way and in the middle is where I'm sure most people fall with their builds.

It's not a super plush bike in my opinion at least compared to what I had in the past however it does well enough in the chunk for me and I ride in Phoenix. You just have to maneuver it a little bit more rather than plowing over everything like an Enduro bike. It shines everywhere else and it's poppy.

If you are used to 29ers then that is something else to consider. I won't speak to the Ripley since I've never ridden one.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
More use to 27.5 ... my anthem is a 27.5 with 100 rear travel and 130mm fork. geo is what you'd expect from a 2015 xc bike. steep head angle, slack seat angle.

A lot of people are trying to push me toward a 29er but I've not ridden one that has out right convinced me that's the way to go. hence towing the line between Mojo 3 and Ripley atm while I try to demo some varied bikes.
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
How would the Mojo 3 compare to the Giant Trance Advanced 1 27.5 2019?

Fun, agility, climbing, downhill, technical wise?

The Mojo 3 geometry seems more progressive and all around just looks cooler... The price point is way up there though! ... Right now I can get a similarly specked brand new Trance for half the price if you factor in carbon wheelset. $3800 Canadian tax in with the carbon wheels.

I did see a brand new X01 mojo 3 with carbon wheels for $7500 tax in... which looks awesome; it'd be nice to have that kind of money! :p
 
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