[pking]

CC has the arundel with red trim at 25% off currently.

 

[PeterG]

Of course it does, it's a knock off of the Arundel side loader.

Except of being both side loaded they look pretty different to me in design, IMO.

On top of being a knock off, I have a friend who purchased 2 of these from China and let it be known that the QA is not up to par......obviously. So one of them works ok. But the other one is so flimsy that his water bottle keeps flying out of the cage. basically, the arm that holds the cage is too weak to hold the bottle full of liquid. Buyer Beware! Or suck it up and buy the $50. Arundel.

There are various sellers of similarly looking bottle cages on Aliexpress, some are cheap and some more expensive. The quality of cheaper ones is not that good, but those more expensive are fine. I have never had any problem with 0.7l aluminium bottle full of water, the cage holds the bottle firmly. I ride such cage for 5 years (on previous bike). However, each to their own.

 

[smmokan]

I use the side load Lezyne cage on my Mojo 3... $16 for two on Amazon. Haven't had a single issue.


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[Ipe]

Has anyone tried the "plus" size rims like the Derby or Light Bicycle 45mm (inside width) on an M3 with 2.8 tires? I'm wondering if they make the tire too wide for the frame/fork? The ibis and several of the other rims being commonly used for 2.8s have a 35ishmm inside measurement.

Guess I'm going to be your test case. I've got a set of 50mm Derby's on order. There'll be a 2.8 DHF up front and a 2.8 Rekon in back. Should have them in about 2 weeks and will report once I've got a few rides on them. Can't Wait!

 

[bizango]

Awesome! I'll be interested to hear what you think.

 

[dtheo]

That cage does not look like it will fit like the Arundel - the distance from the bolt hole to the bottom of the cage looks like it will mount too high in the frame and only allow a small bottle.

now I see arundel makes a plastic one with double mounting holes too-
Flip Flop | Arundel Bicycle Company

This type of bottle cage https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...cycle-Drink-Bottle-Holder-Side-Pull-Bike-Cage-MTB-Road-Cycling/32652235695.html also fits exactly like that one on the picture. I use is on Mojo 3 and previous bike.

 

[idbrian]

 

[PeterG]

That cage does not look like it will fit like the Arundel - the distance from the bolt hole to the bottom of the cage looks like it will mount too high in the frame and only allow a small bottle.
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A picture is worth a thousand words. My Mojo 3, 0.7L bottle.

 

[Nomad Ninja]

Beautiful, where is that?

 

[idbrian]

Beautiful, where is that?

If you are referring to my picture it is at Bear Brook in NH. The place is covered in Blueberry bushes which is the red leaves.

 

[benja55]

I may end up trying one again on the new bike eventually but they seem to be more trouble than they are worth so far.

That was my exact sentiment for about a year and a half of riding with one. I had to almost force myself to use it, just to see WTF all the hype was about.

I'm sure it really depends on where you ride, but my riding has mostly shorter downs followed by climbing. I just get my ass behind my seat for that anyway.

...and that's exactly how I used to ride too. What changed it for me, after riding MTB since the late 80's, was getting more dynamic on the bike. Pumping, hopping, manualing etc all really benefit from a dropper, and once I started to focus on that stuff, that's when it clicked. Droppers let you treat your MTB like a BMX bike and use ALL the body english. Now I have them on all my bikes and use them constantly.

Not really necessary but definitely has added a fun factor to my riding.

Different strokes! If you're having fun, you're doing it right! :thumbsup:

 

[bizango]

That was my exact sentiment for about a year and a half of riding with one. I had to almost force myself to use it, just to see WTF all the hype was about.

...and that's exactly how I used to ride too. What changed it for me, after riding MTB since the late 80's, was getting more dynamic on the bike. Pumping, hopping, manualing etc all really benefit from a dropper, and once I started to focus on that stuff, that's when it clicked. Droppers let you treat your MTB like a BMX bike and use ALL the body english. Now I have them on all my bikes and use them constantly.

Not really necessary but definitely has added a fun factor to my riding.

Different strokes! If you're having fun, you're doing it right! :thumbsup:

I feel like the apostle Paul because I was the biggest skeptic when it came to droppers but everything you stated is true...you change the way you ride and then you have the "ah ha" moment. It took me a while. My buddy would shout at me from behind on sections to use my dropper so I started thinking about it. It was a new style and skill set...and new muscles. A lot more use of the legs. I think old timey riders like me thought of droppers as a means of getting weight back, but it is getting weight low. I find I raise and lower the seat fluidly throughout the ride, even for faster corners on flat terrain.

I know that many are rolling their eyes at the old news of droppers, but these new style bikes warrant rethinking what we thought we were capable of on a bike and I'd hate to see anyone miss out on part of the fun of broadening the scope of what they can experience. But don't worry, I haven't put one on my road, 'cross, or weight weenie hardtail...yet.

 

[idbrian]

I used to laugh because droppers were referred to as "game changer." Then i finally got one this year because i could afford a decent one and have found it to be the most literal use of "game changer" i've yet to experience. When Benja55 referred to it feeling like a BMX, i've had the exact same thought.

You actually have to think about using it at first and once used to it is very rewarding.

 

[desertwheeler]

I really like my dropper and have found my self lowering it just a hair in a lot of situations just for the extra maneuverability. My dad rode my new M3 for the first time and didn't think he would like the dropper post and has been riding for 30 years. Once he did use it, he actually liked it a lot.


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[Steve L. Knievel]

I'm always in between sizes at 5'10", but was all set to pull the trigger on a large HD3 with a short (50mm) stem. However, this brand new Mojo3 now has ALL of my attention since most of my local mid-Atlantic trails are more technical/flat/tight. My only concern is with choosing the correct size sight unseen.

It looks like the Mojo3 has a longer reach, so does that mean I should go for a medium instead? Or, should I stick with identical sizing (large) and an even shorter stem?

This decision is going to be the death of me…LOL

I also suffered from analysis paralysis when choosing my Mojo SL large. I'm 5' 10 1/2" and stressed over it no end. Ibis themselves even suggested M, while 80% of forum members suggested large. I went with L and run a 100 mm stem. I'm considering the Mojo 3, (or the Remedy 9.8 or Yeti SB5) and would go L with about a 50 mm stem next time around. You can always tinker with stem length, but can you not get on a demo for sizing where you are to see which cockpit feels best? Here (Korea) it's impossible. Not only no test rides, but most shops don't stock L frames.

 

[bdundee]

One thing to take into account is stack height. The m3 is pretty low so if you have a longer inseam the reach gets shorter as you raise your stem up.

 

[paleh0rse]

I also suffered from analysis paralysis when choosing my Mojo SL large. I'm 5' 10 1/2" and stressed over it no end. Ibis themselves even suggested M, while 80% of forum members suggested large. I went with L and run a 100 mm stem. I'm considering the Mojo 3, (or the Remedy 9.8 or Yeti SB5) and would go L with about a 50 mm stem next time around. You can always tinker with stem length, but can you not get on a demo for sizing where you are to see which cockpit feels best? Here (Korea) it's impossible. Not only no test rides, but most shops don't stock L frames.

I ended up going with a Large + 50mm stem on my Mojo3, and I have no regrets at all. The cockpit and overall feel of the ride are perfect for me! The bike begs to hop and pop all over the trails, and the full speed turns on the 2.8 tires are just...glorious.

 

[desertwheeler]

At 6' the large felt small to me. The reach just didn't feel right. I rode it and it didn't really slow me down and I could have probably adjusted to it, I just needed more. So sight unseen I went xl and very happy with that choice. I'm running a 60mm stem and 125 dropper.


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[TwoTone]

Both my friend and I are close in size. I'm 5' 10 3/4'' with 32 inch inseam. We are both on larges, he's got a 40mm stem with the Ibis 760mm bars and I'm running a 50mm with 720mm bars.

 

[bdundee]

Well I decided to go up to a large and when I received the frame it was red instead of black (which I ordered) anyhoo I already received the new matte Invisaframe kit. Question has anyone installed the matte kit on the red frame and if so how does it look?