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Gary C

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Been leaning toward the purchase of the RDO for a while. My only hold back has been individually building up the bike without the buying power of a predetermined kit. Called the LBS and the sales person surpirsed me with info about Niner now offering XT and XTR build kits for the RDO. On top of that, they just happen to get a XL frame in today. So while they unwrapped it, I went ahead and put a depoist down on the purchase. All the major parts are there just need the XTR kit to come in. So hopefully next week I will be riding this thing - can't wait.

Gary
 
Please let me know what your frame looks like

I am concerned about the black finish on the paint.

The white part of the frame is perfect. However, the black part of the frame shows the carbon layup. The black paint does not cover the carbon imperfections very well and is very cloudy. I cannot wipe these cloudy issues away, they seem deep inside the frame.

I am new to carbon bikes but I just don't remember ever seeing such clear cloudy marks on a new frame before.

The pictures I see on-line are so shiny and my frame simply is not. Note this is just on the black part, the white paint is flawless. Like glass. There are no nicks or anything. Just this strange visibility of the carbon layup on the black sections of the bike and the inability to make it shine.

Thanks for your input....

I am confused.
A guy who just bought his dream bike and the dream is cloudy and uncertain.
 

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Not sure about the cloudy issue on your frame. I saw my frame before purchase and it did not look quite like that. Not as dramatic. I have had a trek carbon for a number of yrs and yes you do see some clouds. But I really never paid close attention other then when I was looking for cracks in the paint.
 
Hi
The black part of the frame is not painted it is just the carbon finish, so it's not thin paint it is no paint.

The cloudy ness is not something I can see on either of our frames & for sure we can see the carbon joins, There will also look like different colour to the carbon from different angles but from the photo's yours doesn't look the same as yours but camera's may not sow it how it is.

This sort of thing is why I didn't get a full black bike.

If you are worried send some photo's to Niner & ask what they think
 
Cadavis -

Your new Jet 9 RDO looks exactly as it is intended to look. What you are noticing is the difference between UDF and the more traditional 3k weave finish.

When you look at some carbon parts, you will see what looks like a weave pattern. This is largely a cosmetic layer of fiber whose primary purpose is to dress up the look of the carbon underneath. The weave is not structural in the case of our frames. This extra layer adds weight and a particular look that people are used to seeing.

UDF (unidirectional fiber) carbon is the pure stuff, what exists underneath those cosmetic layers on other frames. When you look at Niner's carbon parts, you will see many layers of fiber going in many different directions. These many layers are UDF, and how the UDF is layered into a mold determines the weight, stiffness, strength and ride quality of a frame. We like the pure functional look of UDF and as companies compete on weight, you will see this finish more often.

All three of our paint options show the exact same amount of carbon fiber - the Licorice bike is painted black in the same places as the Tang bike is orange.

Finally, a note on your pics - a lot of what you see in the pics is produced by the flash on your camera. Carbon fiber is very hard to photograph with a home set up - the glare of direct flash makes it particularly difficult. Even in our professional studio, we spend a lot of time on lighting, so that we can convey the look of the fiber without glare and distortion.

Cheers,
Carla
 

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Laughing

I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. Did night ride last night with my friends and it was so much more fun on downhill [luge at santiago truck trail} that i could not stop laughing while i rode.
 
Rdo

My top tube looks EXACTLY like your's does. Strange if you ask me. I've owned a lot of carbon waterskis, and have never seen anything like this on them. I guess the layup process is different, who knows.

I have the XL frame, and I wonder if it is just the big bikes or the smaller ones as well.

Regardless, it is an AWESOME bike!!!

Cheers.
 
I've got a Specialized S-works Roubaix that is raw carbon and it looks the same. The black sections of my Epic carbon Comp 9er look the same. As already stated, it is the lightest way to produce a carbon frame and doesn't detract from strength. I love how the RDO looks but was wondering if that lower link being below the chainrings might present a problem when crossing big logs or rocks?
 
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