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How big of a crash does it take for you to replace your helmet?

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#1 ·
I recently got into discussion with a riding buddy about helmet replacement after I had a good OTB crash. I told him that I was going to replace my helmet since it did what it was supposed to and I should get another one. He asserted since there was minimal visible damage I was good to ride it. The hit I took to the head was massive and I should know I was in the helmet at the time ;) We kind of went back and forth in that vein both finding articles to defend our positions. So I figured I would ask you all what is your opinion on replacing your lid. I know helmets are not cheap but my head is more valuable imho.
 
#3 ·
This is why I don't buy expensive helmets for mountain biking. Crashes are fairly routine. And now you can get highly rated Virginia tech crash tested helmets for less than $100. Combined with crash replacement programs, you can pretty much replace helmets on the cheap. The Specialized Align II is one of the highest rated helmets and costs only $50. Plus specialized gives 30% off for crashed helmets. No reason not to get a replacement for around $35. Bell, Lazer, and Bontrager also have some cheap helmets that are highly rated.
 
#4 ·
For me it depends on the impact.

Part of it for me if I do crash is a 'did my head touch the ground' type check and from there investigate the helmet, weigh the type of crash, violence of the crash, helmet impact, etc.

A minor plonk on the helmet is going to be an inspection deal. If the helmet looks damaged/shows an indent time for a new helmet.

A major impact to the helmet is going to be a new helmet no questions asked.

What I have found interesting is that after switching to a full face helmet a couple of seasons ago I haven't had any head related impacts. That could be luck but it also may have to do with feeling more comfortable/confident on the bike because of the extra protection and for me being distracted/uncomfortable/uncertain is what tends to lead to crashes.

Having said that I probably jinxed myself and will be eating it this afternoon on my ride...
 
#5 ·
Terrain also has a role I think.

I'm in Arizona so lots of rocks and tree trunks.

Impacts to the head here aren't usually going to be face or head first in to a rock or tree but rather a secondary ping pong type hit after you hit the ground.

I would think this would be different depending on where you live and ride so the rules or procedure there as far as helmet replacement might differ just on that I think if that makes sense.
 
#7 ·
I'm going to inspect my helmet thoroughly after any impact, no matter the degree. If I see compressed or cracked foam, a cracked shell, a shell that looks like it has been previously dimpled and rebounded, I'm going to replace it. For that matter, I'm also going to replace a helmet that is old, manky, retention bits falling apart, etc. usually this means I replace the helmet every few years.
 
#13 ·
I can't think of a helmet that wouldn't be easy to see foam damage. If it makes you feel better buy a new one every time the helmet sees an impact. Just be realistic about the protection helmets actually provide. Helmets are great at protecting against skull fractures, but what's of real concern is concussions which we can get regardless of how much money we spend on fresh helmets. Baring visible damage to the foam in the form of cracks or dents, we are protected from skull fractures. Unfortunately, even a fresh helmet won't protect us from concussions any better than a scratched up older helmet. That said, if you don't have a 4 or 5 star rated helmet from the VT studies, I would buy a new helmet. That's what I did. I swapped my a1 for an a2 mips. There's no need for me to replace the a2 until I damage the foam.
 
#10 ·
I'm in the minority here, I bet. I'm pretty much gonna wear a helmet until it shows some notable damage- like the outer shell is cracked or something like the visor broke in the crash.
After a crash, I inspect the whole helmet, probing any scuffs or visible nicks/dimples to see how bad a hit the foam took. I inspect the inside of the helmet to see if there's evidence in there.

Big dents in foam, cracked shell, broken visor, etc gets replaced. If I'm confident that this -exact same spot- would protect me in a 2nd hit, I'll call it good and keep the helmet.
 
#12 ·
Fajita Dave is right. The material superficially looks the same after impact but it isn't. While the probability of hitting the same spot might be low, and the yield curve change might not be pronounced, you only have one brain. The fact you wear a helmet at all indicates you are willing to make decisions to minimize risk for an low-probability/infrequent events. Error on the side of caution.
 
#16 ·
Is that right? I hear you on the rebounded foam thing, but is there data that proves the foam isn't still capable of cracking as designed to dissipate energy? Foam is designed to crack pretty easily. I cracked a helmet without even crashing once. For those that know Jackson trail in Moab, I hit my head on a rock overhang right after the lower tech switchbacks. It buckled me to the point on almost crashing but I stayed on the bike. That impact was enough to leave a clear crack in the foam. Because foam cracks easily, it's easy to know when your helmet is compromised. Some helmets do advertise the ability to take hits without needing to be replaced but it seems the industry would rather make us think we need to spend 150$ bucks every time the helmet touches anything. Nothing gets people to spend money better than fear.
 
#17 ·
I think it depends on your perspective. A new helmet once in a while is a fraction compared to what a lot of us spend in parts, tires, clothes, travel, etc.. I view it as a cost of mountain biking. I’ve been involved with package design studies involving EPS and the loss of resistance to yield is a thing, but I accept an isolated section with slightly compromised performance is probably a small issue. My decision criteria is for the cost of a pair of tires, or a cassette, I can get a new helmet. I choose to replace the helmet after an impact. It has been three years since I had a head impact requiring helmet replacement. For $100-$150 a new MIPS helmet, that works out to about $30-$50 per year.
 
#19 ·
Like the OP, I'm in my helmet. I know how hard I hit. I will inspect for damage, but I won't just arbitrarily discard it because I bumped it on something (I've gone through quite a few low-hanging branches). The last time I really clobbered myself, there was barely a scuff on the shell, but the internal foam was cracked across the entire helmet. It was somewhat hidden, but it felt weird when I latched the chin strap, prompting a closer look.

I did still use that cracked helmet for a couple rides until I got a new one. It's not a reason for me to abandon a ride, as a cracked helmet is better than no helmet.

-F
 
#21 ·
Depends on the crash replacement policy. Always check that too. Most offer discounts, and i think Kali sends you a new helmet. The only one I havent seen offer a replacement is Fox but I don't know if that changed.
 
#25 ·
I replace my helmet if the hit was hard enough to dent the eps foam. Once the foam has been dented, that spot won't serve its purpose in the future. While any helmet is better than none, I feel like my head is worth the $50 or so every few years when I crash. I don't buy expensive helmets, just the cheapest specialized/ helmet that's breathable.
 
#30 ·
Even if it's a minor impact, I usually use ANY impact as an excuse to go shopping. I've only had two cases over the years (knock on wood) that seemed like even a moderate noggin impact, and both times had a new helmet in hand before my next ride. A few other cases just gave me the nudge to go see what's new out there and come home with something new in the 'near future'. Bonus if any of those line up with sales at REI.

I also almost always keep my helmet in my vehicle between rides, and I live in Phoenix, so I'd rather go overboard than find out that baking in the oven all summer has degraded anything. And new helmet pads always feel nicer on the forehead than washed/used ones!
 
#32 ·
I carefully inspect, but if i see even small dimple ill be very suspect. Just had one a few months ago, i kept riding with that helmet because couldnt find new helmet i wanted, but as soon as it became available i bought new helmet. I have yet to cut old helmet apart.
We took a baseball bat to friends helmet being retired, modern microshell helmets are remakably tough. The polycarbonate shells bounce back quite well and can hide a lot of damage.
Oh, and new helmets are advancing. Im somewhat dubious on the effectiveness of MIPS, but do like dual density foam. The helmet i replaced i had a road timble and it was dual density, i clealy heard it contact the ashpalt. No head issues, just a little bit whiplash. Dual density makes sense, you can press on the EPP layer with finger and feel it give. The EPS layer is rigid, sacrificing itself on the big inpacts.
 
#33 ·
If you hit your head so often that the cost of a replacement helmet as a precaution after a crash is a big problem... maybe you should consider taking up knitting.

I don't hit my head often enough to worry about this. If I do hit it, I replace it. Unless I land on my completely unprotected face like I did last time... then the helmet is still good as new.
 
#34 ·
i get what you're saying, but when you spend 90% of your riding time at the dirt jumps goofing off and trying to learn new tricks, crashes happen pretty often. several a day actually, but of course not all are blows to the head although i'm pretty sure every one makes some kind of ground contact. it's not an excuse, but i grew up never wearing a helmet as a kid like most older people here, just having a helmet at all makes me feel pretty safe and i know not everyone thinks alike. but if you ride safe and don't crash often, i could see replacing it every time...