I have a riot also. I’m running mine dvo diamond front and topaz rear. Bike is perfectly balanced. I’ve had it all over the place. With your options on your list. I’d go with the ribbon air. I have one on my nimble9 ss and it’s a awesome fork


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DVO Diamond fork totally surprised me by how good it is. I am 185 body weight, so all of these factory forks are kind of built around my weight. I was on FOX forever, then switched to PIKE on 3 bikes over the last 4 yrs. I also like the Lyrik on a 170/170 rental bike. But the Diamond is as good or better. I give up a 1/2 pound as its heavy. They can be had for $600-$700 if you are rolling non boost. Arts cyclery has a few Push 11.6 shocks on clearance for other frames but maybe they carry over to our Riots? As Ralaighguy said above, the DVO Topaz is great. It's as good as my old FOX rear air shock.

 

Thanks all for the advice. So you think getting something new like the Diamond is better than sending the 34 off to Avy?

 

Another vote for MRP Ribbon. Easy to adjust travel around if you want to do a little experimenting. I actually settled on 150 on my Riot despite warranty talk. I also ran a DVO air shock on the rear and was very pleased with the squishy bits.

 

At this point I'm going to go 150 for sure. I wish the bottom bracket was a little lower, but I'm sure it'll be fine. I have a couple spacers under the stem that I'll remove when going 150. I've settled on the Chubbie/Woodie as I really think I need a coil in the back. Still regret not getting a Large, so this is the best I can do.

 

I ran a coil DVO for a bit and while traction was amazing, I don't feel the Riot was progressive enough for a coil. But you are going the custom Avalanche route so maybe Craig can resolve that for you in his tune.

 

Yes, from what Craig said, the Chubbie will help with that vs the Woodie. The sad part is that had I just ordered the Large with the longer wheelbase, the rear end skipping around on me wouldn't be as big of an issue at higher speeds. All good though.

 

Good luck and maybe look for used large frames on pinkbike to swap to.

 

I think Avy mod is probably better than Diamond, not sure. What I will say, is if you are average weight aggresive rider, a Diamond at $600 is awesome vs a new $1000 fork (plus tax). I have heard great things about MRP, by Sam, owner of Over The Edge Bikes, in South Lake Tahoe. He has a small rental bike fleet with MRP forks and likes them alot. He also has used a DVO Diamond I Believe he said. Alot of great forks out there.

 

I have Avy front and rear. I dont have any skipping in the rear. The Avy shock blow enough HSC to keep things calm. DVO is a good company and you can tune and rebuild things on your own. But the Avy shock you just need to seen it to Craig every 3years and the fork cartridge just change the oil when you do a lower leg service (need to drain anyway) this year i got the push coil kit for my Yari since i needed to keep servicing the air spring to keep stiction at bay. Now its the best fork ivr ever ridden.

 

Good to know on the Avy. I think I'm 100% going to get the Chubie rear. Although I just demoed the SB130 on Friday and came away pretty impressed. Now I've got some problems haha. Either drop some coin into upgrades or go the 130/150 route and bring over some parts. Still have to say, even though I enjoyed the climbing and pedal efficiency of the 130, the Riot is still impressive.

 

Any thoughts on the best offset for the balance and riot?

 

I went back and forth on the Riot pluses and minuses with both. 44 felt like i lost some HTA and the wheel wants to tuck in sharp turns. 51 is quick and can wash out. 44 would be more comfortable on longer straight downhills. But the Riot isn't a long bike. Longer bikes or longer forked, i would like the 44 so on the balance i would run shorter.

 

Thanks that makes sense. I had a bike and went to a 170mm 2018 fox 36 which I believe is 44mm. I'm about to replace it with a 160mm MRP Ribbon which comes in 39 and 44. I haven't seen many 39mm and think its part of the Transition offset geometry push. I already run 38 risers on my balance so i can get my bars at the right height without sacrificing my reach (bringing the bars closer to me with spacers) so I don't want to give up any reach.

 

39 will really slow the response down and put more weight on the front. I see the shorter offset similar to longer stems. In feeling when it comes to longer stems.

 

Ill post this in a few places. Some bikes are more harsh with the derailleur clutch engaged than others. The Riot has a lot Antisquat through the whole range of travel. And i feel a big difference on fast hits with it off. So try turning the clutch off to see how it feels before you go big money on a rear shock or give up on the bike. A chain device may just be what *

 

+1 for the Avy on the rear. I'm running a Woodie tuned by Craig with a 400 lb spring at 158 lbs geared. Love it. I can't speak for a Ribbon or Helm on the front, but I've got a Fox 36 at 160mm that works so good coupled with the Woodie in back. I built it with a zero stack bottom headset so the geometry of the bike is really not much changed at all.

 

Any issues with the longer fork and zero stack? Sometimes i wish i had a longer fork. And im almost out of warranty anyway lol. Just hope the Bros put something out before I break it😁

 

I vote 11-6 for the rear if you can swing it. For me it changed the bike so much for the better that it’s totally worth it. As for the fork I again vote for the push route if you can swing it. I’m using a 150mm fox 36 with the ACS-3 coil conversion. Bike is a straight beast. So much fun.

 

I vote 11-6 for the rear if you can swing it. For me it changed the bike so much for the better that it's totally worth it. As for the fork I again vote for the push route if you can swing it. I'm using a 150mm fox 36 with the ACS-3 coil conversion. Bike is a straight beast. So much fun.

Would love that option, but that is some serious coin. The 11.6 is a good chunk, but buying a 36 and then the ACS-3 Coil will result in my wife killing me. Getting the 11.6 and leaving my 34 on the front would probably be a disaster (just a guess). Although sending my 34 to Avy for the works is going to cost around $600 or so. Which is what got me in this predicament.

Just thinking if I'm spending 600 on that it might be worth getting a beefier fork like the Helm or Ribbon. Some still say an Avy'd 34 is better than the Helm or Ribbon, but I'm just lost.

 

Unless Craig has stated that the fork needs to be sent in,or needs a modification that make ypu nervous. save the money and do it yourself. Its an easy installation. And you'll know whats required to do the lower leg service. It took 20min on my Yari.