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Good lightweight ISCG-05 chain guide and bash guard?

5.7K views 12 replies 8 participants last post by  TylerVernon  
#1 ·
Back in summer of 2020 I bought an e-Thirteen TRS bash/guide and for a year and a half it’s been on a Marin Alpine Trail 8.
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I’ve recently sold the AT8 frame and bought a Ripmo frame and while building it up, it got me thinking… I never liked this bash/chain guide , and am hoping for recommendations on something better.
The reasons I don’t like it are:
1) It’s heavy, but inexplicably not super burly. It looks slightly bent lying on the bench. Sure it’s taken some hits, but something this big shouldn’t bend, IMO.
I also managed to strip on of the bash guard bolts using a torx-bit screwdriver. 🤔 Not a ratchet or even an L- hex wrench. a screwdriver.
2) It’s fiddly. There’s a lot of shims and ‘trial and error’ with installation and since day ONE I’ve had to compromise between the upper chain guide up top rubbing in either the 52 or 10, or the bash guard down low rubbing the chain in the top 2 gears. Even making the shims uneven couldn’t find a middle ground so the chain cleared everything in all gears
I’m also convinced that the chain slaps the bash guard and makes noise. I detest noisy bikes.
3) it cannot be removed (to clean the bike) or adjusted without removing the drive-side crank arm. at one point I cracked the plastic bash guard and found the bolts to remove it were behind the chain ring, requiring the removal of the crank.

Truthfully, I’m not 100% convinced that I need the chain guide, but I’ve definitely hit the naked chainring a few times in the handful of ride on the new bike. So a bash guard kinda NEEDS to happen. I have not installed the e13 thing again.
I’ve always been a fan of OneUp parts, that looks like a contender, but open to other ideas.

does anyone make a modular system, where the chain guide and bash guard are separate, but can play together?
 
#5 ·
Yikes. Sorry guys I guess I really mis-named my thread. I said "lightweight", when I really meant "simple"...All these gram weights... I couldn't care less about what a scale says for a top guide/bashguard; it's getting strapped to a Ripmo AF that weighs probably 38#. (I don't weigh my bikes, but this thing is a boat anchor)
I see now that my first "point of contention" started off with a weight....I don't care what it weighs on a scale.. I'm pointing out that for something that is a solid steel ring, it bent like a pepsi can and the screws stripped. I also remembered later that I had to replace one of the mounting bolts after the head sheared off after removal for cleaning/maintenence following a muddy race in October.

Points #2 and #3 are far more important to me: essentially, ease of installation and setup.
 
#6 ·
I doubt thats solid steel.
Anywy i have the oneup and am happy with it. The outer plate of guide flips ip so you can remove/drop chain easily. With my crank/chainrings i can fit a tool to undo the iscg bolts without removing cranks, but thats a function of the chainring since the iscg bolts are in the same place regardless of brand of guard.
 
#7 ·
nah, bud. It’s steel. I stuck a magnet to it. Everything ‘metal’ in that pic in the first post.

I can reach the ISCG bolts on the e13 too, it’s the bash guard bolts that suck. They screw in from the outboard side, which is dumb, IMO for a removable guard. Like pulling the crank off to replace a (broken) plastic taco is silly.

I appreciate the input about the OneUp. I have several of their droppers and levers, a pair of bars, a stem, the EDC…back in the day I had their add-on 42t cog. They make good stuff.
 
#8 ·
I like the MRP AMg - the aluminum plate is plenty burly and the skid can take a lot of abuse.

As far as setup goes, you're going to install it once, perhaps twice, in its functional lifetime. Shims are the least complicated way to design around chainline variations, I don't think you're going to be able to get away from them. The AMg skid bolts in from the inboard side, I haven't had to remove one yet, but it seems a fairly simple task.

If you just want the basher, MRP makes a couple versions of just that piece too.
 
#10 ·
I did some digging, FUNN states that the Chain guide and the Zippa Bash guard are sold separately but can be used together.
95% sure this is the route I'll take. buy the Zippa bash guard and run that- if I start dropping chains, I can add the guide later.