ive seen the 05 stp's and because they came out late in the season they have not changed even the colours are still the same. so to put it in simple terms 2004stp=2005stp.

 

2005 specs?

Were the specs on the 2005 STPs the same? Considering its price tag, I was surprised that the 2004 STP 2 only came with a MZ Comp 100mm fork (a XC fork), direct pull brakes, and Alivio rear derailleur. Most other bikes at the same price tag as the STP 2 have disk brakes and Deore rear derailleur components. I realize that the STP 1 is the top of the line, but it's more money too.

 

STP2 vs Trek Bruiser 2

The 2005 Trek Bruiser 2, for instance, is listed at the same MSRP as the STP2, and seems a similar style bike.
Specs/details here: http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/mountain/bruiser2.jsp
But for the same price, compare the components:
STP2: MZ Comp 100mm fork, direct pull brakes, Alivio derailler
Bruiser2: MZ Comp 130mm fork, mechanical disk, Alivio derailleur
I was hoping that the 2005 STP2 might at least have disk brakes. If not, the Bruiser 2 seems to be a much better deal, no?

 

I've ridden a friends STP1. It is a manual machine. Probably an excellent dirt jumper for sure, but I didn't have a chance to jump it. Wouldn't really recommend it for trials, but the shorter chainstays will make for easy pedal hops, etc. I really liked the bike, and my friend has no complaints. Haven't ridden, or seen a bruiser in person, but I would recommend the stp, not necessarily for xc though. Odd geometry for xc. hope that might help you out.

 

The 2005 Trek Bruiser 2, for instance, is listed at the same MSRP as the STP2, and seems a similar style bike.
Specs/details here: http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2005/mountain/bruiser2.jsp
But for the same price, compare the components:
STP2: MZ Comp 100mm fork, direct pull brakes, Alivio derailler
Bruiser2: MZ Comp 130mm fork, mechanical disk, Alivio derailleur
I was hoping that the 2005 STP2 might at least have disk brakes. If not, the Bruiser 2 seems to be a much better deal, no?

I am not sure where Garboui is from or how he got his info, but I know that the 05 STP's are different from the 04's in the states. The STP 2 will be coming out with disc brakes and the colors will be changed. As for pricing, I can't tell you yet because Giant is keeping that hush-hush due to they will not be out until Feb 2005.

 

Can.

I am not sure where Garboui is from or how he got his info, but I know that the 05 STP's are different from the 04's in the states. The STP 2 will be coming out with disc brakes and the colors will be changed. As for pricing, I can't tell you yet because Giant is keeping that hush-hush due to they will not be out until Feb 2005.

Here are the '05 Canadian STP's . No discs shown on the 2

 

I already own the 05 giant stp 1 because the shop where i got it brought one from the show. I cant say anything bad about it, just a very very very sick bike. Id say its better than the spec p series because it just feels so much more stable. As for the difference btw 04 and 05 there r none (unless u count different stickers on the fork as an upgrade) iv done plenty of 6-7 footers on it and the only thing i broke is the damn derailler and now i think ill have to go with ss- not that its a bad thing. Thats all, cheers

 

By the way does anyone know what kinda bottom braket theyv got on stp 1 because its not in the specs and i dont wanto to take my bike apart just yet.

 

The STP is especially geared towards street riding, right? How does it handle urban riding, bigger drops? And what's it like on the trails? I'm looking for a bike that I can especially use to hop up and down on 2-3 ft ledges, do drops, but also take on the trails occasionally too. What's the stock STP weigh - with a stock Drop Off fork, I'd guess around 35lb, or is it considerably lighter than, say, a Norco Sasquatch?

 

Yes my friend the stp 1 is the street machine. yesturday i went biking with my friends and i did a 9 foot drop- f up and landed badly to a flat but the bike is still as new- well not really cause i was hopping sideways and landed on the derailler so its kinda f up now but thats my mistake. Its so easy to bunnyhop on this bike and it manuals very nicely- not that i can manual but my friends can . As for the trails i dont know because i bought a small frame and im 6 feet tall so its not so good for me but if you bought a large frame i guess it would be good- i dont think they would call it street trail park for no realy.
Its also easy todo tricks on this bike because most of the geometry was pulled from giant trials team frame.
And one more thing if those avid brakes are not the best brakes ever i dont know which ones r.
Cheers

OH and the last thing. As for the weight im not sure how much it weighs- mid 30 s is prolly right and i do believe its much lighter than the sasquatch.

 

Thanks for the reply!

 

stp 1, 2005 bit of a problem

i got my 2005 stp1 about 5 weeks ago and does ride well. frame and components all good. but while i was riding urban i started to hear a scraping from the rotar. turns out theres problems with the mixture of the disks and the fork as the fork is flexing to much and then scraping on the rotar. Now i am pretty pissed off, as all giant have done, is gotten the bike place where i bought the bike to put on smaller rotars, which i don't want. Now im taking it up with giant and waiting for them to get back to me

 

i got my 2005 stp1 about 5 weeks ago and does ride well. frame and components all good. but while i was riding urban i started to hear a scraping from the rotar. turns out theres problems with the mixture of the disks and the fork as the fork is flexing to much and then scraping on the rotar. Now i am pretty pissed off, as all giant have done, is gotten the bike place where i bought the bike to put on smaller rotars, which i don't want. Now im taking it up with giant and waiting for them to get back to me

Yeap, i got the same problem too but it doesnt bother me that much at all.

 

still unsure

the bike store got back to me today, i also was on the phone to giant all day turns out putting on smaller rotars wont make a difference. but the people at the bike store i go to, took my whole fork and callipers apart for most of last night and was having a good look. turns out that the spacers are oversized and tend to move around. so i changed down the spacers to smaller ones which didnt look different when put together. now the scraping is heeps less but still tends to be there around tight corners, so i am still gonna find out more. i also am waiting to here back from giant in australia as the main guy that knows all about this sort of stuff is comin back from america and he will let me know a bit more. also waitin to here back from marzocchi to see if the forks are the problem and is whats causin da scrape from em flexin

but anyways if u got this problem fairly bad and it pisses u off jus try changin down the spacers

 

STP 1 owner

Hey I have the 04 STP1. I love it, couldnt be more happy with it. I do pretty much everything with it, small trials to dj to trail riding, i modify it a little for whatever I am doing (ie knobbies for trail) I love it for FR as it is small and easy to throw around, for J it is super predicatable. The only gripe I have is the bottom bracket (truvative gigapipe) loosens up pretty often. I have loc-tited it, greased it, gorilla gripped it, lbs has worked on it. I bought the toll and just do it myself now when I tune it up, every 10-15 ride hrs or so. I am planning on replacing the fork. The drop off works well but I would like a SC shiver I think for a bit more FR flare. Thats it, any othe questions let me know. Oh you MUST put lock on grips on it. The stock ones are trash.

 

stp_1_ryder - Have you ever had disc brakes before? Almost all disc brakes will rub when railing a corner, etc. depending on how close you have the pads to the rotor, but by the sound of what is happening on yours it was rubbing hard. On most you will just hear a little rubbing from a combo of fork flex (probably your case) or hub/wheel flex, or just a plain warped rotor. It really isn't that much of a problem, only if it is slowing you down.

canada17 - just to let you know, the Shiver SC SUCKS! nothing like the DC- it is a wet noodle, heavy, and only 120mm of travel. You would be much happier w/ a Marz Z1fr or Sherman Flick (no stupid SPV) or Stance Flow, esp. one of these newer forks w/ the adj. travel and up to 150mm of travel. Just a tip

 

Thanks for the tip

Thanks for the tip on the Shiver SC. I have been looking at the z1fr, I thought the sherman flick was only a 1.5 head tube? The stance flow is the new manitou right? Id love to get a m66 but the wife would have my balls.

 

Sherman Flick and Firefly are both 1 1/8th headtubes, but the firefly has spv and a ti spring, the flick is more basic, but better for a jump/urban fork. The Sherman Breakout and Breakout + have the 1.5in headtubes. The Stance series is Manitou's budget fr fork series they have the lowers from the Nixon line, but look nice all stealth mode black, and don't have spv.
yeah, the 66 is BEEF- 36mm stanchions, but way out of my $ range too, even the cheap vf is like $650 I believe.
Ride on- have fun on that stp

 

question

stp_1_ryder - Have you ever had disc brakes before? Almost all disc brakes will rub when railing a corner, etc. depending on how close you have the pads to the rotor, but by the sound of what is happening on yours it was rubbing hard. On most you will just hear a little rubbing from a combo of fork flex (probably your case) or hub/wheel flex, or just a plain warped rotor. It really isn't that much of a problem, only if it is slowing you down.

nah i haven't i came from a giant warp but this was rubbing fairly hard and slowing me down. thanks but.

and could anyone tell me if the 2005 marzocchi bombers or sherman manitous (i think they are) would be good to put on my stp 1 or could anyone suggest anything real good for around 700 australian. coz im not real sure yet, mainly for urban but i do take it dh every couple of weeks.

 

stp_1_ryder - a Marz Z1FR is and excellent fork - last years had 130mm, this years has 150mm, so your choice, the 150mm might really slacken the headangle and slow steering a bit, but you;ll be able to hit some steeps easier. I'm not sure how much they are in Auz, but I know everything is crazy expensive, so Check out Manitous Stance Flow- it's similar to a Sherman, but has the Nixon lowers and is cheaper, but still nice forks- stealth mode all black too.
if I were you I would look for a 5-6" (125-150mm) fork from either the Marz Z1/DJ line or the Manitou Sherman Firefly/Flick, or the Stance Flow - personally I would avoid SPV on a dj/urban rig. Look for the adjustable travel models (ETA,RTWD,ECC,etc.) so you can drop it down for dirt jumps, or climbing, then raise it up for drops/steeps. Good luck

 

Check out Manitous Stance Flow- it's similar to a Sherman, but has the Nixon lowers and is cheaper, but still nice forks- stealth mode all black too.

What are the Manitou Splice Comp, and the Manitou Stance Static forks like?
They are stock on the new 2005 Gary Fisher Mullet and Bitter DJ/urban style bikes.

 

splice forks are one level under the Nixon line, just cheaper trail style air forks I believe. Just like the Stance line is a slightly cheaper coil/fr fork under the Sherman line. the Stance Static is a shorter travel jump/urban fork - 110mm I think?. The Stance Flow is the longer travel fr single crown - 150mm. Neither the Splice or Stance lines have SPV, which could be a good think depending on how you look at it- cheaper/somewhat plusher.
I"ve never ridden the splice comp or static, so can't help you on a review, but they don't look like bad forks at all, esp. for the price - just depends on if you want an air or coil fork and how much travel?

 

DaBomb Molotov

Instead of the STP, I ended up getting a dual slalom bike at the Toronto Fall Bike Show for a good deal. I did see only one STP at the Show, and that was an STP 2. Instead I got a custom DaBomb Molotov, with decent components: RockShox Psylo XC U-Turn fork adjustable from 80-125mm for different conditions, eyeletted Rhyno Lite rims, Kenda Kinetic tires, 6" mechanical disc brakes, Deore drivetrain, FSA AlphaDrive crank with Blackspire RingGod bashguard, VP-550 Alloy BMX style platform pedals, SDG Freestyle seat, FSA "The Pig" Headset, Pazzaz handlebars, OURY Mountain Bike Grips, plus a lovely lightning paint job! The picture below is unfortunately somewhat dull because of the dark weather, and doesn't do the bike justice.

It's a Dual Slalom style bike, 16" frame, 33lb total weight, and seems perfect for light free riding, urban, dirt jumping, and street riding - exactly the versatility I was after. And the short wheel-base and small frame is great for some trials type moves, popping up the front wheel, moving the bike around in the air, and doing other tricks. This style of bike seems great for all kinds of riding, wouldn't you say? How would it compare to the STP?