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Fox Podium Rants and Raves

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#1 ·
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A gripe has led me to make this post. Rather than just talking about my gripe, I’m hoping we can use this forum to make observations, good and bad.

The good:
• Reduced hand fatigue on long descents
• Handles those tough “Uh-Oh!” moments quite well
• Inverted design keeps those seals cleaner, longer

The bad:
• Inverted design has led to rock chipping my Kashima coat, at least on my brake side
• Torsional stiffness (or lack thereof) is noticeable in low speed technical sections
• Tapered steer tube makes for a tight SWAT kit fit

Now quite obviously, what I’d like to talk about here is the rock chipping on my lowers, which in this case, are the delicate Kashima coated sliders. Right now I have three small chips in there, all in about the same spot, from at least two separate incidents. At first I thought coincidence, but a subsequent ride I heard a sound distinctly like a rock hitting my rotor and then something else. It occurred to me that what was happening here is that small rocks are being basically fed into my slider tubes. Not good!

Now I have discussed this with Fox, who says I should replace my slider tube, not under warranty. Sure, I get it. But what I really want to know is: are they gonna address this problem? Conventional non-inverted forks have a lot of hardware in the way blocking this type of rock behavior, namely the caliper mounts. On this fork there’s just nothing in the way. The guards don’t really wrap around the back side. They could, but they don’t.

I have half a mind to build an aluminum bridge from my caliper to the guards, or something. 🧐
 
#4 ·
Gets Popcorn….. Waits for all the opinions from no one who owns a Podium.

Those scratches suck.
It looks like whatever hit the stanction tube was drug up it…after it impacted (little squiggly lines touching the deeper chip).. usually when rocks hit they chip and go away. It also looks like the 2 were done at the same time. The squiggles overlay exactly. I’m thinking not a rock.
Only important because all I care about is why so I can help protect mine.

Following as a fellow Podium owner, to see what happens.
 
#5 ·
More or less the same design as moto forks (inlcuding the location of the caliper), and I don't recall having many issues with dings on the tubes from debris being kicked up. Maybe just a "**** happens" thing? The tire shouldn't sling stuff into that area, so it might have been something the rotor picked up. For moto forks, there are a bunch of aftermarket fork guards that provide more coverage. Maybe the aftermarket will do something here as well. Or maybe Fox will offer one. If I could get my hands on one of the guards I could see how hard it would be to 3D print one with more coverage but the same mount points.
 
#11 ·
The bad:
• Inverted design has led to rock chipping my Kashima coat, at least on my brake side
• Torsional stiffness (or lack thereof) is noticeable in low speed technical sections

which in this case, are the delicate Kashima coated sliders. Right now I have three small chips in there, all in about the same spot, from at least two separate incidents.
mind you kashima is just hard anodizing, but instead of the pore in the center of the hexagonal oxide layer being dyed and sealed it is impregnated with molybdenum disulphide, and maybe dye. Basically no aluminum surface treatment will fair any different.


More or less the same design as moto forks (inlcuding the location of the caliper), and I don't recall having many issues with dings on the tubes from debris being kicked up. Maybe just a "**** happens" thing? The tire shouldn't sling stuff into that area, so it might have been something the rotor picked up. For moto forks, there are a bunch of aftermarket fork guards that provide more coverage. Maybe the aftermarket will do something here as well. Or maybe Fox will offer one. If I could get my hands on one of the guards I could see how hard it would be to 3D print one with more coverage but the same mount points.
Motorcycle stanchions are steel with hard chrome plating (except some very rare 50mm works WP with aluminum stanchions)
hard chrome is slightly harder, and WAY more durable than hard anodizing.
 
#12 ·
I also want to know when theyll address the wave washer in the bomber cr that always breaks. I asked them if they are still using it and they said yes. Its been about a decade.
 
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#15 ·
I've run nothing but correct way up forks for a couple of decades and never chipped the lowers in probably over a thousand rides. The dorado guard is either a lot better than the fox or something else is going on. Personally I think the dorado guards could be a lot better, but then again I've not looked at the podium.

P.s. The wave washer is easily fixed. I just print a tpu disk, an oring would probably work too.