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  • SID Ultimate 120 mm remote (640eur)

    Votes: 17 20%
  • 34 K Float SC 29" F-S 120mm FIT4 (1150 EUR)

    Votes: 10 12%
  • Pike Ultimate Charger 2.1 RC2 29" Boost 120mm (673 EUR)

    Votes: 15 17%
  • Pike Ultimate Charger 3 RC2 29" 130mm (805 EUR)

    Votes: 26 30%
  • FOX Suspension Fork 2022 29" Float 34 F-S 130 GRIP2 Factory Boost (1050 EUR)

    Votes: 18 21%
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Anybody knows if the 2022 34 oem factory are different from the retail in any significant manner apart from being matte (in this case) rather than glossy? Higher weight? As good?

I've a deal going on a new takeoff 2022 34 Grip2 from a Cube Stereo 120 for EUR 650. Yay or nay for me, fellow threaders? :)
34 grip2 is a good choice,fit4 is bad.but factory don't have 120mm grip2, u need take a short.
If u want to take XC race,i think sid ult 120mm is better.
 
Discussion starter · #42 ·
34 grip2 is a good choice,fit4 is bad.but factory don't have 120mm grip2, u need take a short.
If u want to take XC race,i think sid ult 120mm is better.
I went with the Fox 34 grip2 in 130mm and the DPS (still at 190x40, but planning to make it 190x45). I tried cycling the suspension the whole current range while deflated and to my eye the yoke reaches the maximum seat stay deflection point already with 190x40, meaning that 190x45 will actually flex less at the bottom out, but make for a slightly more regressive or linear spring curve at bottom out. Might not be a completely bad thing on air suspension, or might be tuned with the tokens. The seatstay bridge has another 13-15mm of range so another 5mm of stroke should not be a problem, so I think it's gonna be absolutely fine to run 190x45.

Now I'm slightly debating with myself why I didn't try the Float X instead, or even went for it when it could've been had for 460 EUR during Black Friday ;).
Trying to tell myself that 2 bottles wouldn't have fit ot a medium size frame with a piggy back to make myself feel better, but is that even true? :)
 
I went with the Fox 34 grip2 in 130mm and the DPS (still at 190x40, but planning to make it 190x45). I tried cycling the suspension the whole current range while deflated and to my eye the yoke reaches the maximum seat stay deflection point already with 190x40, meaning that 190x45 will actually flex less at the bottom out, but make for a slightly more regressive or linear spring curve at bottom out. Might not be a completely bad thing on air suspension, or might be tuned with the tokens. The seatstay bridge has another 13-15mm of range so another 5mm of stroke should not be a problem, so I think it's gonna be absolutely fine to run 190x45.

Now I'm slightly debating with myself why I didn't try the Float X instead, or even went for it when it could've been had for 460 EUR during Black Friday ;).
Trying to tell myself that 2 bottles wouldn't have fit ot a medium size frame with a piggy back to make myself feel better, but is that even true? :)
I also went with the Fox 34 grip2 in 130mm
and ROCKSHOX Superdeluxe has a size of 190*42.5, is a good choice,but I didn't find any purchase channels
 
I went with the Fox 34 grip2 in 130mm and the DPS (still at 190x40, but planning to make it 190x45). I tried cycling the suspension the whole current range while deflated and to my eye the yoke reaches the maximum seat stay deflection point already with 190x40, meaning that 190x45 will actually flex less at the bottom out, but make for a slightly more regressive or linear spring curve at bottom out. Might not be a completely bad thing on air suspension, or might be tuned with the tokens. The seatstay bridge has another 13-15mm of range so another 5mm of stroke should not be a problem, so I think it's gonna be absolutely fine to run 190x45.

Now I'm slightly debating with myself why I didn't try the Float X instead, or even went for it when it could've been had for 460 EUR during Black Friday ;).
Trying to tell myself that 2 bottles wouldn't have fit ot a medium size frame with a piggy back to make myself feel better, but is that even true? :)
I hope FLOAT X will produce 190*42.5mm
 
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So.. i hade the shop remove the travel reducer making the shock 190x45, but since I have the SV version of the DPS, I cannot use the last bit of extended travel - the shock is just way too progressive!

What are my options ? Rebuild the shock with a larger volume ? A Manitou Mara? An LV Fox shock, and if so, current gen Float DPS LV, the new 2023 Float (without dps denomination), the float X? The new Öhlins TXC Air? The Cane creek db air IL? What would be the most suitable to make it slightly more linear (but not too much as I understand that the frame is already fairly linear), and what would perform the best ?

Thanks in advance !
(Should I put this in the suspension forum rather than FS bikes by now ? 😅)
 
I have ordered a Pike Select Plus 130mm to fit on my 2021 Epic Evo in place of the SID Select Plus 120mm...hoping to see improvements all round especially in initial plushness. What do you guys think and is anyone running a 130mm Pike on the Evo?

On the rear I have the standard SID Luxe Select+ and wondering if I should flip the chip into the high position when fitting a 130mm in the front?
 
I have heard good things about it. My buddy put on his SJ. I went with a Fox Factory 34 130 Grip2 and could not be happier with it. I was literally laughing the first time I had it on a rooty local trail.
I don't think you need to flip the chip, leave it as is.
 
Discussion starter · #49 ·
So.. i hade the shop remove the travel reducer making the shock 190x45, but since I have the SV version of the DPS, I cannot use the last bit of extended travel - the shock is just way too progressive!

What are my options ? Rebuild the shock with a larger volume ? A Manitou Mara? An LV Fox shock, and if so, current gen Float DPS LV, the new 2023 Float (without dps denomination), the float X? The new Öhlins TXC Air? The Cane creek db air IL? What would be the most suitable to make it slightly more linear (but not too much as I understand that the frame is already fairly linear), and what would perform the best ?

Thanks in advance !
(Should I put this in the suspension forum rather than FS bikes by now ? 😅)

Hmm, I don't know who else to ask.. so @Dougal, I started thinking about this again. It seems like my shock is slightly too progressive, but on the other hand my frame is very linear, so I can't have a too linear shock.. I can't use full travel, unless I go to a ridiculously low spring rate (35% sag or so), and then obviously just blows through it.

For 190x45 on the 2021 epic evo,
Is a Fox float X a stupid idea? (will it be to linear, or too little/too much damped?) Can have it on sale for 330 EUR.
Is an Öhlins TXC a much better option? (dampening curves looks interesting), and if so, TXC1 or TXC2 ? (And why)
Manitou Mara? (which version?).
 
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