[dub.xian]

Hey, wanting to have a more efficient option for my Hightower for longer trail rides, maybe casual local XC/endurance races. Currently running 2.5 DHF/2.4 Dissector, both EXO+ which I'm happy with, just wanting more effciency but still maintain grip on longer, less techy, less aggressive rides. I'm interested in going Forekaster/Rekon f/r in 2.4" and checking if anyone is running that and what your thoughts are. At first glance to me, it seems like the Forekaster would be better up front with Rekon out back, but maybe Rekons aren't as fast rolling as Forekasters? I've punctured every rear EXO tire I've had (Aggressor and DHR, always foreign objects, not snake bites, I don't run inserts), so that's another reason to have the Rekon out back. Maxxis on their int'l site says there's an EXO+ Forekaster, but I haven't been able to find any available in NA or EU.

Not too interested in trying the Dissector out front as, although I'm very happy with it out back and the DHF front for heavy trail/enduro-ish riding, I don't want an even wider trough between center and outer knobs out front, and the Rekons and Forekasters have transitional knobs. Seems like it's either love or hate with Dissectors in the front and my sense is that I wouldn't like them.

Desert SW riding, Albuquerque/Santa Fe area, as well as four-corner states; this'll tire combo would see longer trail rides in forest and desert, some chunk here and there of course. 22/24 psi, 175lb kitted.

edit: corrected current DHF tire width

 

[flyninjasquirrel]

I switched to Forekaster/Rekon from a Specialized Butcher/Ground Control combo (have run DHF/Aggressor as well) and will never go back. At least for the trails that I spend 90% of my time on. The improvement in rolling resistance is significant and I didn't feel like I was missing out on any grip. Rekon is fast rear tire. I will probably put a Forekaster on the rear when I ride in Pisgah though, don't know how the Rekon would perform in the wet.

 

[dub.xian]

Thanks for the reply! Going to go for it. Hearing about the actual widths of Forekasters as mounted, I'm tempted to go with 2.6" in the front. My rims are 30mm inner width. Actually just checked and I've got 2.5" DHFs, not 2.4", so I think 2.6" Forekaster is a better plan and I'll get a little more bite over 2.4 and better rr than the DHFs. Sticking with the plan of 2.4WT Rekon back.

Might try Forekaster rear sometime in the future after the Rekons wear out, but not 'till EXO+ becomes available.

 

[Hrodulf]

Forekaster front, rekon rear is for me a tire combination where XC and Trail will start to meet in terms of tire choices.

Rekon is fast and the Forekaster is very predictable.

Rekon is okayish in wet, pretty useless in mud. Forekaster is allround, albeit cornering on hardpack might not be the best choice.

To me it is a set and forget combo.

 

[flgfish]

I run DHR2/Rekon on my Ripmo in case you’re looking for other options.
DHR2 doesn’t have the large transition knob gap you don’t like, and it’s faster than DHF.

 

[HEMIjer]

Chart above cool and accurate but how can you leave off DHR rear DHF front combo and DHR rear Assegai front combo...

The WC guys are certainly a crazy fun bunch.

To the OP despite the tread pattern the Dissector transition from full on upright to leaning very well especially in the dry in my experience. Better than a DHF, not as well as a Assegai,i never ran a DHR II up front, its on my to do list.

 

[KobayashiMaru]

Her's what I found...

Have you gone from a Rekon to a Forekaster on the front?

I rode Ikons front and back on my 29er XC hardtail in 2.0 width for a while, but after a bit I started noticing the front was washing out more than I'd like. I upgraded to a 2.25 Rekon up front. It was an immediate improvement from the Ikon and it's been there for a year. I don't know exactly...

www.mtbr.com

Many others will heartily endorse this combo, but my experience is with the original version of the Forekaster, so no input on the current offering. I think it's a great loss that Maxxis stopped making the lighter version. It was all the front tire I think I'd ever need from East Tennessee to Central Arkansas, and it's paired with a Rekon on the back on all of my mountain bikes.

I tried DHFs on the front of a couple of my bikes. If it gripped better, I couldn't tell. It certainly weighed more and took more effort to push... I don't get the fascination with that tire.

I have no desire for a nearly 1000 gram version Forekaster, so when my current stock wears out, I'll have to try another tire.

 

[SoDakSooner]

Ive been happy with the Rekon rear/DHR2 front combo. Rolls well and reasonably stout.

 

[UPSed]

Ive been happy with the Rekon rear/DHR2 front combo. Rolls well and reasonably stout.

I love this combo on my Ranger. The DHR on the rear works well but is terribly slow. Hardly notice it on the front.

 

[Scottydoo]

Has anyone ridden or measured the new forecaster? Debating on running it F&R on my 429.

 

[flyninjasquirrel]

I have the 2.4 which measures 2.3 or so. Paired it with the 2.25 rekon on the back. 29 mm ID rims. Didn't want the extra weight of wider tires and I'm glad I didn't. Don't feel like I'm missing out at all grip wise.

 

[SoDakSooner]

I love this combo on my Ranger. The DHR on the rear works well but is terribly slow. Hardly notice it on the front.

Yeah, Ive run the DHR on the back as well. Rekon is noticeably faster for sure. Like you not as much consequence running it on the front.

 

[Collapse]

Has anyone ridden or measured the new forecaster? Debating on running it F&R on my 429.

I run the v.2 Forekaster F/R at 2.6 - I’d measure mine snd let you know but, I’m unsure how they’re measured?

 

[KobayashiMaru]

I run the v.2 Forekaster F/R at 2.6 - I’d measure mine snd let you know but, I’m unsure how they’re measured?

Like most things in the Imperial system, the measurements are based on odd dimensions of existing objects.

The 2.6 refers to how many milk pails worth of melted lead it takes to split the casing of a mounted tire when injected into the valve stem using hydraulic pressure.

Manufacturers use different qualities of lead to obtain their advertised figures and any impurities present can add a level of elasticity to the resultant fluid. This is why some tires measure big or small compared to other brands of equal stated widths.

It's not an exact science at all.

 

[Collapse]

Like most things in the Imperial system, the measurements are based on odd dimensions of existing objects.

The 2.6 refers to how many milk pails worth of melted lead it takes to split the casing of a mounted tire when injected into the valve stem using hydraulic pressure.

Manufacturers use different qualities of lead to obtain their advertised figures and any impurities present can add a level of elasticity to the resultant fluid. This is why some tires measure big or small compared to other brands of equal stated widths.

It's not an exact science at all.

So I’m not sure exactly how to measure something to try and help give constructive input to the thread and your response is to clown on me? Good job Tiger.

 

[Sparticus]

Welcome to EmptyBeer.
Raise your head up & look around a bit, get yourself a good view of the landscape.
It might be different than you expect.
What you see is what you get. It’s a public forum. Some replies are good, some are bad, some are serious, some are funny.
Or at least intended to be funny.
That’s all I got.
Nuthin’ on tires specifically. Only on MTBR. In an effort to help set expectations.
Maybe start a new “How do I measure tires?” thread?
Maybe I should start a new “How to set expectations on MTBR” thead.
Or I could post some helpful customer service phone numbers.
=sParty

 

[KobayashiMaru]

So I’m not sure exactly how to measure something to try and help give constructive input to the thread and your response is to clown on me? Good job Tiger.

I wouldn't say I clowned on you because I knew I didn't intend to do that, but I can see how you didn't pick up on my attempt at humor regarding the absurd Imperial system and it could then seem as if I meant to clown on you.

The entire world uses the metric system, except for America and maybe 7 other people, and it appears that you are from a place outside of the USA, so I thought you might appreciate it. The Imperial system is often an easy target on these forums, especially when people from other countries talk about their body weight. Like, we have no idea what a person weighs when they give their weight in kgs.

I totally realize for the effort it took me to compose either of my posts here, I could have told you how to measure a tire, but for the effort you took to ask how to measure a tire, you could have looked up how to measure a tire on the internet and instead just posted what your tires measured. Given the folly of that, I figured some humor was in order.

Other people here will totally bash you for not using the internet to answer a question, which I think is a bit harsh, as I enjoy personal interaction... if you can call an internet forum a form of personal interaction. At least I didn't wail on you like a douche bag.

 

[Sparticus]

... if you can call an internet forum a form of personal interaction.

I like it because it’s like attending a party at someone else’s home.
You can interact with anyone you choose, leave whenever you want and you don’t have to clean up the mess the next morning when you’re hung over.
=sParty

 

[KobayashiMaru]

I like it because it’s like attending a party at someone else’s home.

I can see that, but it's missing all the women in various levels of intoxication that enjoy my conversation. This place is a total sausage party.

 

[Unbrockenchain]

I was really unimpressed with the V2 Forkaster size at 2.4 and its weight. I rather have a Dissector at 2.4 and only a weight penalty of 30 grams or so. Doubt Dissector is much slower Especially if running in the front.