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Discussion starter · #1 · (Edited)
Well this is my first fenix light. I was skeptical at first. Cost of the light didnt seem to go over well for something that didnt seem all that great.

Well I was proven wrong! VERY NICE LIGHT! Perfect for those that want a simple, self contained light thats USB chargeable yet puts out PLENTY OF LIGHT.

Fenix BC30R 1600 Lumens 2 Cree XM L2 T6 LEDs OLED Cycling Light with Rechargeable Battery ( Neutral White )-139.66 and Free Shipping| GearBest.com
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Comes with handlebar mount, USB cable, remote cable (nice quality but usefulness is just dumb, more below), and extra rubber spacers to adapter to whatever bar sizes you could want.

Build quality is REALLY nice. Well thought out, well sealed. Batteries are NOT user changeable (well average user).

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The remote thing: Only works to put light head into "Turbo" mode. Lasts for 20 seconds have to hold the button the entire time. Now high is plenty of light for the normal cruising so not a huge deal. But to use turbo means removing thumb from the grip, well when you need the light, you need the control as well. Probably going to donate that remote switch to something else lol.

But Love the light for what it is. Simple, to the point. Self contained, good light output. Personally its going on my Commuter. USB charging will go well with my Cygolight tail light. Be easy to charge or use my solarstorm case that still has the USB active to charge them.
 
That turbo mode is the number one reason why you shouldn't buy this light. It might be good for commuters who want to flash a car, but it's useless on a mountain bike trail.

I always thought that you could replace the batteries of the fenix lights on the trail, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I must be thinking of a different light.
 
Discussion starter · #3 ·
Its not a reason not to buy the light if you don't ride aggressive single track. For those that bike pack, ride fire roads etc, perfect light. And high is plenty for a lot of things. This light wasn't designed for night time down hill and AM type riding. Its a simple self contained light that's for non aggressive trail riding.
 
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Some variance because time is based on current draw/voltage. As run time gets down there current draw decreases so you end up at lower power to maintain output for longer.

That said lvl 4 says 1 hr 55mins on very first charge. Once cells break in the run time will increase a bit. But right now 2.5hrs run time before cut off is about right.
 
I always thought that you could replace the batteries of the fenix lights on the trail, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I must be thinking of a different light.
The Fenix BC30 is their version of this light that has user-replaceable batteries. I have one but haven't used it enough to give a decent review.
 
The Fenix BC30 is their version of this light that has user-replaceable batteries. I have one but haven't used it enough to give a decent review.
Ah OK. So what's the difference besides the battery in these two lights? This light also has a cool led readout of the battery life, while your version does not. Is that right?

Is there a version that has the both the led readout and a trail replaceable battery?
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
OK so got a couple beam shots. As much hype as fenix lights get, they still over exaggerate lumen claims. 500-600 lumens at level 4, about 1200-1300 lumens on turbo based comparison with known outputs from other lights.

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That said, excuse the not so clear pictures, 85% humidity right now so glare from moisture is hard to compensate for, being that this is a 4.2v integrated light head, Im impressed. Price to me is a bit high for it, but functionality and build quality are really nice. This is definitely a "get what you pay for" light .

Functionality works beautifully, timer is pretty accurate (time shows less than light will actually run for before protection trips).

AS long as weather cooperates so trails can dry enough to open, I will do some pavement and trail video of this light over the weekend.
 
Nice pictures. Too bad about the turbo being time limited, because that would have sold the light. That's a deal killer for me. It's something they could easily fix in the firmware of the light, so maybe they will change their minds later on. Also, the remote should be act as a remote in my opinion, so you can actually change the mode of light.

Like you said it's probably a good light for mixed use road/light mtb or for shorter rides. It does have a lot competition in the self-contained category though.
 
Discussion starter · #11 ·
Ya that remote switch could have been done better. Not sure why they did that. I get the "turbo timer" idea but a low threshold thermal step down would have been far better. Then remote to change modes.
 
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So went out riding a tad bit last night, too wet for much. And tried to get a bit of video, trying to figure out this new camera was interesting as well. Nothing was cooperating but my summary thus far:

Lumen output is very over-exaggerated. 600ish on high, 1100 on turbo MAYBE.

Beam pattern is interesting and nice as the spot is basically stretched back towards the tire. And decently wide beam. But problem is LACK OF LIGHT. Now being with seemingly 4C tint on a T6 emitter bin, kind of understandable, will appear like les light that way, and be a bit dimmer than the u2 3C emitters I run in everything else. But on tight twisty trail I didnt like it. My BT21 on high (1.3A) on the lid was pushing quite a it more light.

Also, the turbo button. NO WAY ON THE TRAILS!!! About caused me to eat it on level but twisty/off camber (just trying to test it)

FOR SERIOUS TRAIL RIDERS: No, get a better light

For bike packers, commuting, road, fire roads, all that: I will keep my opinion as a DEFINITELY YES if your wanting something self contained with decent light output and USB chargeable. Not sure the competition out there in this area, especially at this price, But my commuter/flat bar road bike (i use it for riding everywhere except the trails) this is my "perfect light". Charge at work or anywhere really easy, more than enough light for use on pavement at any speed.

I wasnt sure if I was truely going to use this on my commuter but the 4c tint is much more pleasant when its wet out and not so annoying for cars driving around (especially with the dual beam and ledge on the housing, much more welcomed than my previous set up)

Video review to come, I thought I had it last night but nope. Other traisl will be open this weekend that are more open and night riding friendly without a powerful light.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
Well im comparing to lights rated at the same output. There is no way high is 800 lumens. Wish I had a sphere to get actual but even the turbo mode is far dimmer than other lights I have that are rated at 1600 lumens.
 
Well im comparing to lights rated at the same output. There is no way high is 800 lumens. Wish I had a sphere to get actual but even the turbo mode is far dimmer than other lights I have that are rated at 1600 lumens.
Unlikely, but did you get a dud? Fenix has a reputation for accurately stating lumens (disregarding the max lumens Turbo Mode nonsense). My BC30's output is consistent with other lights that I have in the same lumen-range...
 
Discussion starter · #16 · (Edited)
Well im going off out the front, not prior optics. Numbers might be good with better optics or the stock optics have that much wasted spill so sphere numbers are decent. But when it comes to useable light on the trail even my bt21 that is half the price does alot better. Battery versus run time and the fact they are on a parallel circuit, that's 2 amps divided by 2 emitters. So 800 lumens, then loss from optics, around 640 out the front on fresh charge best case. So like most, numbers are at the emitter, not out the front.

Still going to give it a shot on my other trails this weekend, they are more open so the spill may be more useful
 
Unlikely, but did you get a dud? Fenix has a reputation for accurately stating lumens (disregarding the max lumens Turbo Mode nonsense). My BC30's output is consistent with other lights that I have in the same lumen-range...
that's my experience to, they under estimate their figures.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
Ya run times match what im seeing.

In no way saying this is a bad light, just that imo its not the greatest for single track use. The optics they use (and even companies like Gemini/gloworm and so on all rate lumens prior to optics loss, east to calculated approx lumens and be within acceptable margin for accuracy). just waste ALOT of light.

But when I get videos finished youll see what I mean. If lumens are acceptably accurate, then the optics just waste far too much of the light.
 
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Spankone: Ok I stand "corrected" it does put out the lumens, but my other thought was the correct one. Too wide, so alot of side spill outside of "line of sight" when going on single track. I have video uploading now. I did put the the other light at equals as best i could. Stock optics, 2 cell pack (though 8.4v not the 4.2v the bc30r uses) and "high" on both. Once video loads ill post. I also did it on pavement path so I had the wider space to see the the full spread of the bc30R output.

So ratings on both this expensive light and my nitefighter bt21 are both correct. Turbo is overrated though :p

Having spent some time out now, the display does annoy me a bit if I need to look down toward front wheel, too much going on. But not as bright as alot of these other lights. And the timer was actually not bad at all, just the buttons.

Having said all that, my other opinions and thoughts for purpose of this light remain. But the more I use it THE MORE I REALLY LIKE IT.

Improvements needed:

Button needs to function as actual remote, not just for turbo (or just ditch turbo all together)

Smaller display, that thing is far bigger than needed.

The handlebar mount: I dont get why you would want to rotate it laterally on a bicycle, far less effort just to turn the bars. Instead being able to tilt it down (to minimize glare to oncoming cyclists/vehicles) In my opinion would be far more useful.

In searching: Fenix BC30R does a few things better than comparable lights. Run time is first, second it neutral tint (brand names havent learned about the NW revolution yet) and third is the display. At the $150 price tag or lower. Also the variation in beam pattern. Though too wide/floody for my tastes it covers all the angles without wasting too much vertically
 
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