Anyone looking forward for this fork? Im looking to replace my fox 34 next year on my mach 6. Tech sounds good, my friends love the emerald and jade on their dh bikes.

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Very much so. And while i should know better than buying a first generation product, I'm really tempted to preorder the Diamond. I like the OTT system over RS's way of adding tokens and the fact that it has externally adjustable high speed compression and provides easy access to the compression shim stack makes it a convincing package, at least conceptually.

The guys at DVO might stress this point a little too much, but they are not new to the suspension game and the fork is made by an experienced manufacturer.

 

OTT is completely different than adding tokens. Adding tokens reduces spring volume to make a spring more progressive. OTT adds preload to the negative coil spring to adjust the coil to various rider weights and help small bump sensitivity.

 

Yep, very much so.

Projected pricing is looking to be a bit more than a Pike in this country, but substantially less than a Fox, BOS or Marzocchi fork, it's going to be a pretty easy sell if it's as good as it looks.

 

The green actually looks rad just hard to match up with my frame.


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The green actually looks rad just hard to match up with my frame.

It will be coming in black/black as well as green/black.

 

Murdered out black even sweeter


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Just saw this. Hot damn!

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Thanks bing, but I've only tested the Pike for several days and do not own one. The Pike doesn't have any external HSC adjustment though, don't you mean LSC since you are talking about small bumps and chatter?

 

the pike has a configurable shim stack, the manual will walk you through how to configure it. I meant hsc, which has to do with high speed hits like chatter. lsc is for holding the fork up against fork dive and pedal bob.

harshness is usually a spike in the initial stroke of the shock. the combination of the ports and the shims is possibly choking on the oil on high speed hits.

hope that helps.

edit: Ive confused the Boxxer's charger damper's shim stack adjustability with the Pikes. the Pike does not describe how to adjust the shim stack.

In this case, I would advise bleeding the charger damper and replacing the oil with one step down lighter viscosity to take out harshness. something like Torco RFF 5wt or equivalent. This is lighter than RS 3wt.

 

Anyone looking forward for this fork? Im looking to replace my fox 34 next year on my mach 6. Tech sounds good, my friends love the emerald and jade on their dh bikes.

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Gonna dig up this old azz thread. I just bought a Diamond 27.5 from Jenson. Should take a couple weeks but I'm VERY excited to see this piece of kit. Pics and review to come...

 

Well i got a 36 hehehe but there were tons of them last race in fontana.


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Well i got a 36 hehehe but there were tons of them last race in fontana.

interesting... like, sponsored riders or most people went out and bought their own?

there's been very little noise on MTBR about this fork so I'm surprised that you saw a bunch of them.

 

Sponsored most of then on intense. A lot of riders used am bikes instead dh bikes and all of them ran dvo diamonds


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On paper it looks heavier than all competitors and it's more expensive than all except the Bos Deville and Float 36.

 

Lbs quoted me $1100 for the diamond but i got my 36 float for $900

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Its a sexy looking fork. Will 35mm stanchions be a happy medium? There is a guy on Ebay taking preorders for $999.99.

 

Yea it looks dope. Well the every other am forks are 35mm. I only got the 36 thinking ill never get a dh bike but i was wrong. Lol


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The Jade Coil rear shock looks pretty nice to. Having both would make for a sick set up.

 

Cedric garcia runs that set up


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Mine will be here tuesday. Take the 36 off, transfer the crown race, and get it mounted up on my Mach 6. Hopefully get it out and about next weekend pending weather. Should be an interesting comparison.

 

Damn post a pic. Yet to see a diamond on a mach 6

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We got our first in earlier this week. We'll be seeing more in a week or so.

 

Damn, that's one sexy looking fork!

 

Dirtmerchant: can you give us a scale shot? Also, I still have a wad of cash in my pocket for your first black one… Jensen still doesn't have any.

 

Max: Yep, I've got your name on a black/27.5"

 

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Max: Yep, I've got your name on a black/27.5"

Can anyone confirm the actual measured weight of a Diamond D1 boost 29? The picture above is of an older non-boost 27.5 model at 4.83 lbs. I'm having a hell of a time trying to find the weight of the current model. I might need to buy a scale just to do this! I want to compare it with the 36 and Lyrik. Thanks guys!

 

I got mine directly from DVO on a discount they give to military and got my name in the hat over 6 months ago to be on the preorder list with them. They had a few extra kicking around from the stock they brought back from overseas for sponsored riders and I got lucky to get one so early.

Here are the photos from today:

I only got about 3 miles in before I got a sidewall puncture and had to turn in for the day. At least I got in a few smaller jump lines, some rocks and plenty of roots. But here is what's what in my opinion.

The Diamond tracked better than any fork I have had over small trail chatter, successive roots, rocks, etc.... The OTT adjustment is pretty awesome. Additionally, the high speed compression hits I took today were managed very very well and the fork was extremely smooth. So far I would say it's easily better than my 36 RC2 in overall smoothness. I think the OTT feature greatly contributes to this. I am interested to see how it will fare in the long run and see if it is really this good or it's just the honeymoon phase at the moment.

Honestly right now it's making the Float X in the rear feel very underwhelming.

 

I got mine directly from DVO on a discount they give to military and got my name in the hat over 6 months ago to be on the preorder list with them. They had a few extra kicking around from the stock they brought back from overseas for sponsored riders and I got lucky to get one so early.

Here are the photos from today:

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I only got about 3 miles in before I got a sidewall puncture and had to turn in for the day. At least I got in a few smaller jump lines, some rocks and plenty of roots. But here is what's what in my opinion.

The Diamond tracked better than any fork I have had over small trail chatter, successive roots, rocks, etc.... The OTT adjustment is pretty awesome. Additionally, the high speed compression hits I took today were managed very very well and the fork was extremely smooth. So far I would say it's easily better than my 36 RC2 in overall smoothness. I think the OTT feature greatly contributes to this. I am interested to see how it will fare in the long run and see if it is really this good or it's just the honeymoon phase at the moment.

Honestly right now it's making the Float X in the rear feel very underwhelming.

Time for a ccdb upgrade. That float x is really underperforming

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Looks awesome. I'm super stoked for this fork!

 

The fork Dirt Merchant posted above:

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Here's my initial impressions (xpost from Knolly forum):
I haven't gotten the fork dialed yet, but the setup Ethan at Dirt Merchant did for me is certainly a good starting point. I was coming off a Lyrik, and I like my suspension supple with good ramp. The Diamond achieves this as is (much better midstroke), and I was able to crush the rocky technical section of trail I rode last night, but there's so much to play around with to get it set up perfectly, it's going to take a while. Right now, I can say its very smooth and supportive, but there is initial stiction when getting on the bike - once it's sagged, I dont feel it any more. The low speed compression is also very good - 6 settings: at 1 the fork will go into a full bob while pedal mashing, at 6 it's almost as stiff as the climb switch on the CCDBI, so great range there. I haven't played with the HSC yet. The rebound is just as effective as most forks. I'm really excited to tweak the balance of the fork pressure with the OTT though. I haven't played with it yet, but that's going to be the most interesting part - add enough pressure to sag properly, get the appropriate ramp, while being able to use all its travel, then dial in enough OTT to get the super smooth supple initial stroke. then just use the compression knobs to tame the ride where necessary. The only minor negative so far is there is a little bit of top out noise, but I think I got rid of most of it when I bumped up the rebound damping a click or two, so i'll keep my eye on it. I'll report back as I get more riding time.

 

On your bit of stiction, get a q-tip and a little bit of fork oil and coat the stanchions lightly just above the seals. This is what DVO suggested to me when I was talking with them about initial setup and I have noticed no stiction at all on the fork.

 

that seems like really bad advice, to be honest. free oil on the stanchion will simply attract dirt. which of course will wear your stanchions and seals faster.

any stanchion treatment should be more like a polish and when it is wiped away there should be no residual liquid.

 

good tip, thanks! I'll do that before my next ride.

 

Update after my first big ride on the Diamond and turning all its knobs:
This thing feels gooooood. Small bump compliance is awesome - cant wait to see what it will do on the brake bumps at the parks this summer. The bike feels very balanced with the CCDBI in the rear (although the CCDBI may need a volume ring - it's a tad soft and not as progressive as the Diamond). Stiffness, tracking and traction over all sorts of terrain was excellent - rocks, roots, sand, hardpack, babyheads, everything seemed easier (this was aided by the LB 38mm rims).

I had 2 nagging issues after my first impression posted above.
1) Stiction at the very top of the travel. I did as recommended here - fork oil on the stanchions, cycle the fork many times, wipe dry. This did not remedy the problem. I may have to talk to DVO on this. Again, it's only at the very top, once it's sagged, it's butter - I don't notice it at all on the trail, so it's not too big a deal.
2) Top out noise. This seems to have been a settings issue. after tweaking with the rebound and OTT, this went away.

The recommended settings in the manual were spot on for air pressure, compression, and rebound, but I currently have the OTT set to like 1 turn from max, which is like 3-4 full turns from the recommended value. I cranked it up to break the stiction but that was unsuccessful, and I didnt see any negative effects (reduced travel, etc), so i just left it there because it still felt good.

 

Pull of the lowers be careful not to loose the oil (hold it in the correct angle).then take judy butter or something similar and lube the wipers from the inside.and if there are foam rings, check if they are well lubricated with oil. Many forks have too few or lack oil in tge stanchions completely.so ut could be possible here, too ;-)

 

For those looking to dial the tuning in a bit more with the fork, here are the highlights of my conversation with DVO today:

- Essentially use OTT as your LSC
- This means that the actual LSC knob is almost like a tune-able mid stroke. So crank it up for climbing, turn it back for trail. Hence the easily turnable knob.
- Start with less HSC than you think you need if any. The fork will break-in after several good rides and then adjust from there.

From these notes I've noticed how it relates with my experience. At least for me, I'll ride with the LSC in the "3" position and notice a distinct difference in moving from 3-4 where as you get that fine-tune adjustment with OTT. Also I am running the HSC compression open at the moment and have yet to bottom the fork out, but it's crazy how smooth the entire stroke has been so far. I'm not hucking huge drops, but 12 foot lip to landing doubles and 2-3 foot drop offs have yet to bottom this fork out for me.