[WillDB]

Resurrecting this thread.

I have giant size 13 feet. I reluctantly bought a pair of Lake MX 169 and holy ****, they do everything an SPD shoe should.

Size 47 compared to Altra Superior 5 (13) shown below.

Bonus for laces!

 

[KobayashiMaru]

Resurrecting this thread.

Thank you for showing the two shoes next to each other. Altra knows about people in our camp... those Lakes look very similar in the toe box. Good to know.

 

[WillDB]

Thank you for showing the two shoes next to each other. Altra knows about people in our camp... those Lakes look very similar in the toe box. Good to know.

For sure.

It's the question that arises wrt wide toe boxes, "how does x compare to Altra?"

Will

 

[WillDB]

Spent about two hours on my bike today in Lake MX 169s. I had zero foot pain with a bad neuroma.

I haven't been able to wear SPDs without dire consequences in ages. If you're on the fence, jump to the other side.

 

[FredCoMTB]

Spent about two hours on my bike today in Lake MX 169s. I had zero foot pain with a bad neuroma.

I haven't been able to wear SPDs without dire consequences in ages. If you're on the fence, jump to the other side.

Still liking them? No one around here has the model I (think) I want in stock (MX177) but they have similar or the same cast at a triathlon store and said confidently they can seek the right fit.

I will say that I love Lake's sizing chart. Very busy to look at but once you read through their process it gives a ton of info. I don't remember seeing any other manufacturers give the actual width in mm, just "wide" or "EE" or whatever.

Hopefully the chart is accurate...

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[WillDB]

Still liking them? No one around here has the model I (think) I want in stock (MX177) but they have similar or the same cast at a triathlon store and said confidently they can seek the right fit.

I will say that I love Lake's sizing chart. Very busy to look at but once you read through their process it gives a ton of info. I don't remember seeing any other manufacturers give the actual width in mm, just "wide" or "EE" or whatever.

Hopefully the chart is accurate...

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Been riding them exclusively.

 

[FredCoMTB]

Been riding them exclusively.

Nice thanks. Tried them on and ordered the MX177 (from the shop) in wide and should have them next week. Sizing chart seems spot on.

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[dysfunction]

Well ****. Now I know what I want for fathers day.

 

[Radical_53]

Lake wide models are great, really. You might want to try their different models as the fit is slightly different, all the wide ones offer significantly more room than regular shoes though.
Really great find. Not cheap but definitely worth the money!


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[FredCoMTB]

Nice thanks. Tried them on and ordered the MX177 (from the shop) in wide and should have them next week. Sizing chart seems spot on.

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These are so much better. Went for a little under two hours. Got just a little bit of numbness and no pain, which is a big improvement (have a bunion though so year certainly contributes). Didn't even get that until the heart rate field test (max effort for 20 minutes).

The width feels right and certainly more time in the toe box. Gives room for the Superfeet insert I use. I did also change from SPD to Time pedals at the same time, though I don't think that makes a difference for pain and numbness.

Also.... they do require "shoe shields" when using TIME pedals or Eggbeaters. Is never heard of them (and I used eggbeaters for a few years). Crank Brothers makes them and they do seem to help, but I did have to use a little longer of a cleat bolt, that I fortunately already had. Not a big deal though and does seem like it protects the shoe. I can imagine you'd definitely want them for carbon soles.

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[Mitch2651]

So I have been down this rabbit hole the past year with the following issues Shimano xc7 slight rub on Fabre of big toe and I got a numb heel Lake 238- numb heel on wides. Also too much volume. I had to strap them down pretty good. So close. Toes were fine. rx8- pretty much same issue as xc7 Giant charge- close but a tad narrow at the toe box. Eventually this leads to pain on the outside right under my pinky toe Bont riot- I had both and wides were closer. However on my left foot under my big toe it rubs. Bummer as it was close. I think this gave me a numb heel too. right now I have lake 242 and shimano me5. Lakes have too much volume. I guess I should have known. I’ll probably end up selling them. I really wanted to like them. the me5 were the best so far but they aren’t very stiff which is a bummer. My first pair ever were me7. I would have just bought them again but they are kind of big and ai use the same pair for roads and woods. Kind of funky in a road race with those. Not the coolest temp wise. frustrating to say the least. I haven’t tried mavic, Scott, or Sidi. I don’t have a lot of faith they will be much different

 

[VtotheO]

Spent about two hours on my bike today in Lake MX 169s. I had zero foot pain with a bad neuroma.

I haven't been able to wear SPDs without dire consequences in ages. If you're on the fence, jump to the other side.

Hi Will, where did you get your Lakes and were they in size Wide or Regular?

I developed a bunion after riding with some Northwaves during winter....did a bit of research and came across Lake.
I'm a size 13/48 with really wide feet.
I've been using Lakes winter boots and MX238 shoes since then.
In July I've done a 700km race with lots of hike a bike (10-20km).
Some days I cycled for 20hours straight.
Never had issues with The MX238 however the rubber under the sole failed.
Lakes replaced them within warranty.

Since then I bought 2 more pairs of Lakes at a sale.

The only "issue" I would say the MX238 have is that they're stiff to walk with and I'm now looking for an alternative with a more flexible sole.

I'm tempted by the 169 but I'm not sure if they are:

• too flexible
• grippy enough when hiking

 

[BmoreKen]

Great thread. I like sidi dominator mega for road/gravel (I used SPDs on all bikes), but on trail they aren’t so great, mostly because on gnarly downhills my foot slides fore/aft eventually causing toe pain. That and they don’t offer much in the way of protection (not that I need a lot, but if you knock a rock you’ll feel it!).

My favorite shoe right now is the Pearl Izumi X-Alp Elevate. Fits well, lightweight. The only con is they are too flexy. I’m considering getting XT 8120 pedals with the platform - unsure if this would actually help reduce flex or not (any clue?).

Going to try the Shimano me702 wide next.

Giro Terraduro HV fit well but the sole delaminated.

Lake MX168 fit well, lasted a while before the sole came apart. I still wear them occasionally.

 

[beanbag]

For anybody who tried on the Lake MX201:
Do they fit true to size according to their sizing chart? (in terms of foot length)
Is it good for those with flat feet? All the pictures I have seen of people wearing it on the internet have the laces spread waaaay apart. Do they have high arches or something? Whereas when I wear shoes the laces make the two sides nearly touch.
So is the heel wide or not?

 

[pripojar160]

Hello! Do you have any information on how much they weigh? (41 or 42 size)

 

[WillDB]

I wear a 48 and they’re heavy.

 

[123XYZ]

Bont Vaypor G.
There are 3 options with wide toe box
1) Wide fit
2) Asian fit (same toe box width as Wide, but narrow heel).
3) Double wide fit

https://shop.bontcycling.com/collec....com/collections/dirt/products/vaypor-g-li2-reflex-ghost?variant=39646797234309

If it's not wide enough, you can also heat mold and make it wider. I did that on my Vaypor S (road version but identical fit to Vaypor G).

Also consider Bont Riot MTB+ in wide if Vaypor G cost too much.

https://shop.bontcycling.com/collections/dirt/products/riot-mtb-plus-bb?variant=34651726610565

I'm leaning towards Lake, bit I'll definitely check these Bonts out.

Who knew I have Asian feet? My wife will be thrilled. I need a big toe box, but am not especially wide in the forefoot, where shoe widths are generally measured, and am fairly narrow in the heels. Normal to slightly high insteps, I think. And, of course, the right foot is a bit bigger than the left, like every other part of my body, but that doesn't cause much trouble.

While I'm here trying to find wide-toed bike shoes, I can share some thoughts on other shoes. For casual to hiking shoes, most Keens are built on a last with a wide toe box. I probably have 6-8 pairs of those around the house in various states of wear, from one pair for wearing in public and mid-top hiking shoes in good shape, through the garage and back door shoes for light yardwork in somewhat decent shape, to the falling apart pairs at the back door in the hopes the wife and kids will use them instead of stealing the ones I usually wear. Keen is great about being very clear which of their shoes are built on their traditional wide-toed last and which are built on a more typical toe-crushing last.

For steel-toed work boots (for heavy yardwork/landscaping), I found some Carolina Boots with a wide toe box, but don't know if that's a true of all their boots.

 

[arnea]

Doesn't probably help people in this thread, but Lake is doing a run of normal-width MX238 shoes in size 49. Before that they had only 48 and 50. It's not yet up in their website as the delivery is pending.

I tried wide 48 and it was perfect except the left toes touched the uppers. I asked from Lake if they plan to do 49 as well and they said they plan to do it. I failed to mention that I need wide size. Afterwards they explained that they haven't seen enough demand for wide 49.

 

[glader60]

I ordered a pair of Bont Riot MTB+ in 48 wide for $132 during their black Friday sale.
The shape matches my foot well, length and width is perfect for my size 13US semi-wide feet.
I used thier printable foot measuring template to select my size and it was spot on.
Coming from an old pair of Sidi Dominators Mega in 48, the Bonts have a much wider base, which is better, the sidi have a wider upper on a standard width base.
Nice quality insoles, replaceable soles, heat moldable base, single BOA with a single zig zag velco strap.

I have over 250 miles on them, they have been very comfortable and I'm overall very pleased with them.
The tread is neither soft nor hard(like sidi), but kinda in between. Exelent on dirt, not too bad on rocks, but they don't grip like rubber, though they are replaceble if/when they wear out.
They call them an entry level shoe, but the next model up retails for $425
Time will tell if they hold up, the Sidi's last forever.

Winter is here so I switched to my winter shoes since these Bonts are too cold for winter riding, I'll bring them back out in the early spring and get some more miles on them.

 

[beanbag]

So I got the Lake MX201. Short version: 3/5 stars. It's the only shoe that has a wide enough "tip of toebox" but lots of drawbacks.
Longer version: I have an angry rant queued up about how Lake seems to buy into the paradigm that your foot shape determines your activity. Like cyclists need to have pointy-toed Italian dress shoe feet and us duck-footed people should just go hiking instead. Because this shoe is built like a hiking shoe, i.e. very heavy with thick rubber tread on the bottom, except that it's a very closed pattern - more like sipes. So I suppose it is good when you walk into a store on a wet day and won't slip and fall on ur ass.
As a trade-off for the only shoe that is not a pinky toe pincher, every other part is too wide. Heel is too wide (although not too bad) and even the metatarsal area is wide and the foot can slide left and right a bit.
Only one BOA knob is a bit lame for the amount this shoe costs, but maybe I will rig up something later to help tighten up the front of the shoe.
In terms of sizing, I had to go half size up from Lake's recommendation chart. It cost me an extra $30 in shipping and handling, but oh well. That's what you get when no retail stores want to carry these shoes.
Incidentally, another not-quite-toe-pinching shoe is the Specialized S works Vent Evo. Aside from other problems, like a too-high arch, it actually has a soft, rounded toe box.
Anyway, still on the look-out for a shoe.