not attacking you..just stating that they are expensive.

i like them..seem like a better option than my giant motorcycle old school cobra lock i use in my garage. which by the way was also expensive.

 

Locks are worth it. I lost a €700 bike a couple years ago, and I'm still bitter about it.

Now I use a 16mm ABUS Granite 58 (for motorcycles).

Funny story:

I bought ABUS 6500 folders for my wife and daughter's bikes (€600 or so, each).

I was at the bike shop today with my wife, picking out a helmet for her. She saw a cheaper folder (maybe an ABUS 6000), for €50, and said something like "OMG, you spent €50 on a lock?!"

Of course, those 6500s, even discounted, were more like €80 apiece...

 

I think my 11mm pragmasis and squire came in at about 80-90 euros. It was well worth it. Yes there is better stuff like the pewag chains and the pragmasis 13mm and the squire 65cs and so on but this is actually portable, like 2,5kg. And no one in their right mind will even consider it. and the dopers cant break it even if they wanted. Very good vids, one of those i posted above of the pragmasis 13mm chain being cut (failed) and also the thinnest pewag with 2 guys on it. and also the cuy cutting the thick pewag with an angle grinder. Really informative.