All-City is no more
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Same with my 06' SJ HT and an early 90's Rockhopper HT.
The main problem with All City was that the average cyclist didn't understand the difference between the steel used in an All City bike versus the plumbing pipes used in a Surly, so it was hard to understand why they cost so much. I am NOT a "steel is real guy", so I could not fathom paying that much for a steel bike regardless of the grade of tubing.
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Not too surprising, a friend that owns a small LBS that has a standard QBP account, but doesn't officially deal their bike brands bought a full Gorilla Monsoon Apex build for $700 on a flash deal last week. That's has to be a cutting losses, cutting inventory price.
A someone who has owned a lot of steel bikes over the years, it does kinda sadden me to see the material becoming an almost totally obscure niche. I still feel that for low-medium end gravel bikes that are not for racing it should be a top choice for comfort, durability, and simplicity, but if they don't sell, they don't sell.
A someone who has owned a lot of steel bikes over the years, it does kinda sadden me to see the material becoming an almost totally obscure niche. I still feel that for low-medium end gravel bikes that are not for racing it should be a top choice for comfort, durability, and simplicity, but if they don't sell, they don't sell.
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On the one hand, I totally agree. However, for MTB at least, steel is still definitely real. Kona is going strong with steel, REEB is making a big splash, Esker’s Japhy and Hayduke are better than ever, and so on.
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I'm sad to say I feel some validation for my comment the other day about consolidation and bankruptcies happening in the industry and the deals getting better before they get worse. Sales are down. Money is no longer cheap. People on the cusp are toast.
On/off topic: +1 on steel for a gravel bike. My last gravel bike was steel and current is CF, and I honestly regret the change.
On/off topic: +1 on steel for a gravel bike. My last gravel bike was steel and current is CF, and I honestly regret the change.
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The best riding road bikes I've had were steel too... It's too bad that it's now pretty much boutique only.
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Yep. Just bought a Meta TR V3 frame for $1400 and picked off this thing brand new for the misses and her 2x a year bike ride. (2 is a massive over estimation) $2600 for the Instinct.
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I love a well made steel bike, but the all-road bikes are quite porky, which tells me the tubing isn't far off from plain straight gauge steel. There really is no reason for them to weigh more than 27 lbs with GRX and a dropper. I would have bought one and ditched the dropper and accept 26 lbs as a final ready to ride weight. The 'cross and race bikes are on point, but even the Cosmic Stallion is 23 lbs. 5 oz. to the 23 lbs. 10oz. that my bottom of the barrel Canyon Grizl 6 weighs. The Grizl is less than half the cost, so how can the "average" non-enthusiast reconcile the performance/weight/soul value proposition? How can there be 3lbs. just in the frame and fork compared to a mass produced alloy frame/carbon fork combo?
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Does this mean Salsa is going to bring back more steel bikes? Updated El Mariachi?
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dang i always wanted a gravel bike that weighs as much as my DH rig
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Love my old El Mar!
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They also had the Log Lady, which was their SS mtb.
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I doubt it, guessing that a lot of the mainstream brands that did still have a steel offering will become less and less.
BikesDirect used to sell a lot of good quality steel bikes made with Reynolds tubing at very good prices, but those have quietly disapeared over the past few years too.
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Seriously, I would be tempted to snatch up one of their cross/gravel frames, like the Nature Boy 853, Nature Cross, or the Super Professional, for a winter project bike.
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Some places from what I hear already doing 30-40% off sales on some bikes & frames from them.
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We have two All City cycles in our household. The both get ridden very regularly. They are a great durable bike. Really sad that they are axing the brand. We have more steel frames in our collect than aluminum or carbon.
This is my go everywhere bike.
All city nature cross:
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Here is the gals Electric Queen mtb setup for winter use:
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This is my go everywhere bike.
All city nature cross:
Here is the gals Electric Queen mtb setup for winter use:
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