I’m 5’9” on a large and would have to run a 125 on a reverb but I’m able to go to the 160 bike yoke which is pretty much the exact same collar to rail as the reverb. I’m more satisfied with every aspect of that dropper compared to the reverb.

 

anyone on the medium getting pedal strikes with the 175mm cranks at all?

 

I got more strikes when I demoed the medium with 175mm cranks. I have 170s on my medium, and like them better. High setting 2.6 tires.

 

thanks for the feedback! thankfully my lbs is sending the 175 back for the 170

 

What rear shock sag settings are you running and why? Anyone adding compression damping?

 

Sorry to respond to a question with another question, but does anyone know also what spacer volume comes stock in the dpx2 on a 5010? I weigh 155 kitted and am currently at about 27 to 30% sag with 170 in the rear shock. I think I have 4 clicks from full open on the damping compression, and 3 from full open with rebound. I like it okay, but still want to play with it and have not changed the internal spacers at all. Anyone else play with this? I ride a lot of rooty and rocky single-track around the Bay Area and some in Tahoe for reference.

 

I don't recall the volume spacer size, but I moved up one size for a more ramped, end of stroke feel. I'm 195#.

 

I've got the Performance Series DPX2. It came with the .4 spacer installed.

 

Thanks Jason, I have the Kashima one that came on the frameset but I bet it's the same. Today I bumped up the pressure a little to 175 and backed off compression and added a little more rebound. Overall I was sitting a little higher in the stroke at 20% but but still felt responsive two small Trail roots and rocks and more controlled. Just sharing the experience for what it's worth as I try to dial this thing in. Was riding the backside of China Camp in case that context means anything to anyone.

 

A large CC frame with a FOX DPX2 Float Factory, seat clamp and axle is 3005 grams.

 

A large C frame with a FOX Float Performance DPS shock, seat clamp and rear axle is 2969 grams.
A large CC frame with a FOX DPX2 Float Factory, seat clamp and axle is 3005 grams.
So why spend the extra money to get a CC frame??

I guess the main reason practically would be you get the considerably better shock without the weight penalty because the frame is also lighter and cancels out the extra weight of the bigger shock. But if that doesn't seem worth it to you, then it's probably not worth it.

 

I never realized the lower end models came with a DPS instead of the DPX2. After riding both shocks, I get the one with the DPX2.

 

According to SC webpage, D/R builds come with DPS, S and up come with DPX2.

 

I recently swapped from a Bronson V3 to the 5010 and just swapped my parts from one frame to the other. I reduced the travel in my fork to 140mm. I am really enjoying this bike so far.

 

I recently swapped from a Bronson V3 to the 5010 and just swapped my parts from one frame to the other. I reduced the travel in my fork to 140mm. I am really enjoying this bike so far.
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How do you compare them?

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If i were to buy a new bike....

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Mine is coming in at 28lbs for a pretty burly build.

Only difference to yours:

Fox Transfer Dropper
X01 Cranks
SRAM Code RSC brakes
DMR Vault Pedals
Running Continental Der Baron 2.4s

I reckon 23/24 is easily possibles if not set up in this way.

 

Just built up my bike and it came in at 28.6 lbs, thought it would be much lighter

Carbon CC frame Medium
Rockshox Pike rct3 also have a Fox 36 140mm grip2
X01 eagle drivetrain with XX1 dub cranks
One up aluminum pedals
Magura MT7 brakes
turbine R stem and 760 SC bar
Revive 160mm dropper
ANVL carbon saddle
Nox Farlow wheels with project 321 hubs and cx-ray spokes.
DHF 2.5 and DHR2 2.4

 

The Bronson is definitely more capable in the rough and at higher speeds it feels more stable. 5010 climbs/ pedals better in general. The 5010 is better for 90% of my riding. The Bronson is a great enduro bike that pedals well for its travel. It can be flicked around or just plow depending on what you want it to do. With the 5010 you have to be more mindful with line choices but it is super playful.

 

Anyone know the weight of the V3 5010 frame only?

I'm considering building up a 2019 5010 and I'm also wondering about sizing....I'm 5'9.5" with a 32" inseam. Weight is about 200 lbs.

Lastly, I see a lot of your guys are running Fox 36 as opposed to 34....why? Just looking for less flex? As far as travel goes, I'd probably run at least 140mm if not 150.

Thanks

 

Anyone know the weight of the V3 5010 frame only?

I'm considering building up a 2019 5010 and I'm also wondering about sizing....I'm 5'9.5" with a 32" inseam. Weight is about 200 lbs.

Lastly, I see a lot of your guys are running Fox 36 as opposed to 34....why? Just looking for less flex? As far as travel goes, I'd probably run at least 140mm if not 150.

Thanks

A large CC frame with a FOX DPX2 Float Factory, seat clamp and axle is 3005 grams

 

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.

 

Anyone know if a large bottle fits in a small with dpx2?

 

I have this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IEKD50Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Not much room for something bigger on my medium

 

It's tight but it works ok.

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Still loving this bike! Got rid of the trash brakes and upgraded to some Magura MT Trail Sport's. So much better than the Guides. Great modulation and lever feel, it's like night and day really. Don't mind the long cables, they're going to be shortened as soon as I get a new bleed kit.

 

The Radavist posted up a review:

https://theradavist.com/2019/01/small-package-but-big-fun-with-the-santa-cruz-5010/#1

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I've been messing with rear shock pressures and here is what I have found:

- ~35%-40% Meh. A bit dead and did not gobble up the terrain as expected.

- ~30% Playful. Takes terrain well but still some feedback. Likes to pop off the ground. Fun!

- ~25% Bottle of lightening! I was doubling rocks I never even looked at before. Wow. But you have to have a forceful hand as when you get tired the bike will push back.

I have the DPX2 and added the next larger spacer, .6 I believe.

I ride a mix of hardpack and Sierra alpine chunck - I like consistency out my bike, so I prefer not to change pressures based on terrain. For me ~30% seems to fit how I want to ride and the terrain.

Less sag also seems to make the 5010 more snappy and efficient in the pedalling and climbing scenarios.

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I've been mulling this bike over for awhile. I ride in the Boston area but travel all over the place. Our local trails are super techy with punchy ups and downs. We don't have a lot of huge drops or jumps but the bigger lines can be pretty legit. Most people, like myself, that are hitting the bigger lines tend to ride "bigger" bikes. So my main ride for the past 2 seasons has been the Nomad4. Before that it was the Nomad3. I also ride with a lot of younger faster skilled riders, so trying to keep them in sight on the bigger bike is becoming more and more difficult. I figure it's time to admit my age and get something a little faster. Enter the 5010.

The Build:
5010CC Size Small w/DPX2
Fox36 FIT4 150mm
Enve M60HV wDT Swiss 240 (54t)
BikeYoke Dropper 125mm w/Wolftooth trigger
RF Next R Bars 760mm
RF Next R Stem 50mm
CC40 Headset
XT brakes M8020 170 x 170
XTR Cranks 170 w/XTR BB
One Up Flat Pedals
Shimano XT 11 speed drivetrain 32t x 11-46
Tires - Currently 2.6 DHF, 2.6 DHR
Ergon G1 Grips
Side water cage
Bell

Frame Weight w/DPX2, headset, BB, seatpost collar = 6.5 lbs.
Total Weight as seen = Just under 29 lbs.

My Riding weight - 160 lbs
My Height - 5'4'' w/long arms and torso and short legs
Fork Setup - 150mm, 60-ish PSI, Rebound on the faster side, minimal LSC, always ride in Open
Shock Setup - 200PSI as recommended. Rebound on the faster side to match the fork. LSC - 4 out from open.
Tires - 2.6 Maxxis 20-ish PSI

Overall build was easy. Running the brake and der cables took a little trial and error. It'll be easier next time. Dropper cable zipped right in. 125mm dropper has plenty of room. Probably could've gone w/the 160, but I really don't need it. I expect the 9.8 and the Fox 150 would work as well. Full size water bottle fits w/o hitting shock. Bike is clean and quite (except for my Shimano pads).

I built it up yesterday and got a 2 hour ride in the dark and then an hour today at lunch. Yesterday's trails were on the sloggy side, w/today's totally frozen. Not enough time for deep thoughts but here's what I have:
- Bike is literally a rocket. I was pleasantly surprised at how fast it gets going and keeps it going. Makes boring fireroads fun.
- Bike is very playful. First jump I hit I've done a million times on my Nomad. This time I was boosted but completely in control.
- Bike crushes the moves. Steep rock ups, big rock/log overs, loading dock style ups, etc are so much less work. We have a lot of this on our trails.
- Bike is heavier than I would've thought for a small CC. Was hoping to be closer to 27 lbs. Dropping weight would require some major concessions.
- Only have tried the bike in LO setting. Rides slightly higher than my Nomad. Don't see a reason to change.
- Was a little concerned about 150 upfront, but felt very balanced. No problem on snappy climbs and tight rock gardens.
- Rear suspension feels stiff with recommended settings. Not terrible but on the stiff side. Will play...
- Hit a couple of G-outs and drops to flat pretty hard. Used all travel but no clanking. Actually kind of surprised at how well it handled it.
- Have to be more precise than on my Nomad. No more plowing through things. Need to plan accordingly when riding this bike.
- Not sold on 2.6's in general. I can see how it helps smooth things out and help with traction but I don't like the vague feeling and the thin sidewalls. Gonna try 2.4/2.5's next.

That's all for now. Cheers!

 

I tried mine in the Hi setting yesterday and it seems to climb better. Bike pedals really well in the Low setting already.

 

Tried mine in low, pedal strike city on my local trails with my big Deity TMac flat pedals. Think I'm going to go down a bit in crank arm size to 170mm, maybe even 165mm.

I have a FOX DPS on mine. I run the rear (and fork) a bit stiff since I do a good mix of trail riding and jumping on our big jump line with it. Bike is an absolute blast.

 

For the conditions we have in New England right now, this bike is super fun with a set of Wrathchilds.

 

For the conditions we have in New England right now, this bike is super fun with a set of Wrathchilds.

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You were able to get a 3" tire on without issue?