Curious for those that recently bought a 5010 or own an older model did you ever consider the "Bronson" as an alternative option? I like the idea of a shorter travel aggressive bike with plus tires and am thinking the travel is fine for 90% of the riding I will ever do here in Socal minus a few secret trails or Park stuff which I don't really do anyways.

Cheers!

 

So I did consider a Bronson and have ridden one. I don't ride aggressively enough for a Bronson. The 160/150 would be too much for the trails I ride. I think 130/130 is the sweet spot for my trails.

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These photos don't do justice to the terrain, but a full weekend of this and the 5010 was at home. Slow, steeeeep, tech. Lots of drops. Big chunk.

Running the Fox 34 at 140mm with Luftkappe. The Luftkappe was the real deal on the steeps, it absorbs terrain better and stays higher in the midstroke, I just need more high speed chunk experience to have a full opinion.

I also moved up to the next sized spacer in the DPX2 which has a better bottom feel.

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These photos don't do justice to the terrain, but a full weekend of this and the 5010 was at home. Slow, steeeeep, tech. Lots of drops. Big chunk.

Running the Fox 34 at 140mm with Luftkappe. The Luftkappe was the real deal on the steeps, it absorbs terrain better and stays higher in the midstroke, I just need more high speed chunk experience to have a full opinion.

I also moved up to the next sized spacer in the DPX2 which has a better bottom feel.

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Yes, please write up a comparison when you get a chance. Did you have a chance to compare the two stock before the fork upgrade?

 

I'm super curious as to your comparative experience. They seem like different rides to me, and I've continued to go back and forth in my mind about it. I'm all ears to what you've noticed. I know at the factory they told me they felt the new bronson was a much more track and drive kind of ride and much less poppy so to speak compared to the 5010. They even said more so than the HTLT. Curious if that fits your experience.

 

I'd be interested in knowing what chain guide folks are using. Always used a one over the last few years. Bolted one to the bike last night but clearance is super tight a few mm at most.

 

I ordered a OneUp Bash Guide for mine, but haven't built it yet. I'll report back here next week if I have any issues with it.

 

I have the one up here. Really tight.

 

Mine seems to fit fine with plenty of room.

 

Just wondering how well the 5010 climbs? I’ve a Tallboy 3 and wondered if there is much of a difference.

 

Just wondering how well the 5010 climbs? I've a Tallboy 3 and wondered if there is much of a difference.

Climbing? I'm guessing the steeper geometry on the Tallboy would make it a better climber. I think the 5010 climbs fine but I didn't buy the bike for the climbs.

 

I think tallboy climbs better but that's just my opinion

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Anyone coming up with creative ways to carry a tube/co2 on your frame? Not lots of room on my medium to do it clean... Would love some suggestions or pics!

 

Backcountry Research strap on the seat. Tube, co2 and tire leavers.

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Looks like a Specialised Zee II cage leftie version. Running the right handed one on mine. Standard size camelbak podium fits with ease.

 

Any body build, or considering, a V3 up with a 2019 Pike RC3 140?

Thoughts? That hole Axle to crown thing and all that.

Thanks!

 

Any body build, or considering, a V3 up with a 2019 Pike RC3 140?

Thoughts? That hole Axle to crown thing and all that.

Thanks!

Axle-to-crown 3mm difference is only in your head, you will not notice a difference. Go with the work that you like better.

 

That's exactly what I'm on (2019 140 Pike) and I like it. I'm only running 5mm spacer under my stem, but I tend to like my bars lower and don't have any problem with the axle crown heighth I can distinguish.

 

How are you liking the 150/130?

 

I'm loving it! Definitely makes the bike more capable on the downhills, and doesn't give up much in weight or climbing ability. Really liking the Luftkappe, too.

 

OK, I thought I'd post a few thoughts on the 5010V3.

I've been riding SC since getting a Bullit way back, then a Heckler, Blur TRa, 5010 V2 and now a 5010 V3.

All have been a large and have been built up from scratch.

I'm 6ft 1 and around 220lbs kitted up.

The 5010v2 was ran for almost three years. Pretty much out every week in any weather here in the UK. It was built up with a set of 36's set at 140 (Fit4) and a X2 shock. It rode really wel, particularly with the suspension upgrade. A set of 34's and stock float DPS didn't do the frame justicel. Size was OK, or so I thought.

The 5010v3 has been built in the same was with the same make/model of parts if not the actual same ones. 36's upfront with a set of 2019 Fox 36's (Grip2) set at 140.

It's longer and I feel I am sitting better on the bike. In it rather than on it. Mates who ride with me say it looks a better fit. This has contributed to the bike feeling really planted and secure. The old bike used to front end lift on steep climbs and pedal strikes were just part of the course. With the same wheels, tyres, cranks and pedals the V3 has had very very few strikes if any (It's in the high setting currently). I also seem to be cleaning a number of problems on the trail that I usually struggle with and I think this has a great deal to do with pedal clearance.

I'm finding that descents are still really great. Very planted and definitely more compose. I slowed the rebound on the shock down by one click from recommended and hit the sweet spot. The back end is definitely stiffer. There is a lot more bike around the bottom bracket and the addition of the drive side seat stay has made a huge difference.

I'm running a Zee bottle cage and using a camelbak podium when out on rides now. This wasn't something I was able to do with the V2. Shock clearance was simply too tight for even a standard podium

 

OK, I thought I'd post a few thoughts on the 5010V3.
All have been a large and have been built up from scratch.

I'm 6ft 1 and around 220lbs kitted up.

The 5010v3 has been built in the same was with the same make/model of parts if not the actual same ones. 36's upfront with a set of 2019 Fox 36's (Grip2) set at 140.

It's longer and I feel I am sitting better on the bike.

Did you compare the fit on the new 5010 in XL vs L?

 

Dialing in the sag on my V3 and I'm up to 225 psi and still measuring 35-40%ish on the DPX2. I'm 205# geared up. Cycled the shock thru 25% travel 10 times or so to equalize chambers. Granted I'm doing this alone, wall leaning and careful dismount and all, but what gives? What am I screwing up? Lay it on me, it's my first dually lol

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You on a 2019 with the X2? The piggy back requires more air so you aren't screwing anything up. At your weight, per the SC site, you should be putting about 250psi in your shock. I'm guessing you'll be happier close to 240psi.

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Yup, well DPX2. Really I'm pushing 260psi but I'm just under 30%

Thanks for the reply! Now if it'll dry up so I get this thing on some legit trails!

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Anyone try the MRP AMg V2 bash/guide yet? If so how's it fit?

For the ones running the OneUp, any issues?

 

Both fit just fine.

The issue is only with Bronson/Nomad frames where shock is mounted very low. On 5010, pretty much all ISCG-05 chain guides will work.

 

Just ordered a large black cc frame and fox 34 @ 150 and will be trying to get it to 22 pounds.......

 

The best you can do is roughly 25lbs, and that's with top components.

 

I have one extra 2019 Fox 34 Factory (Kashima) fork set @ 140mm. Ended up going with Pike which I already had, so if anyone needs a new fork for 5010, PM me.

 

New never installed with full uncut steer tube?

 

44 mm offset?

 

Yes, 44mm offset.

PM me if you need images or details.

 

Nice ^

I went with the MRP. Wanted to try it. I run the OneUp on my HT, it's been great! I'll report back later with thoughts on the MRP

 

I have a CC V3 with top end components and it's 30.5 w/pedals. My wheelset is heavy as I pulled it off my Nomad. I have SC Reserve rims that will be laced to the light weight onyx hubs when they come to production. If I chose different components 27 is easily doable. If you're going to make this more like an xc bike without a dropper, light wheels and light tires I can't see it being less than 24 but feel free to prove me wrong.

My build: 30.5 lbs w/ pedals
5010 V3 CC
Fox 36 140mm
Raceface next r cranks
SRAM xo1 eagle drivetrain
MRP AMG v2 carbon
Hope v4 brakes
Renthal stem
Renthal carbon bars
Bike yoke dropper
Power Arc saddle
Dt ex511 w/ onyx hubs
Minion 2.6 front
Rekon 2.6 rear
Crankbrothers mallet E

 

I live in Florida, a dropper is not something I really need. I have stan arches with Rekons 2.6 front and rear. XTR Brakes, AL frame, 140mm pike, xpeedo spry pedals, x01 11 speed,
SC carbon bars, renthal duo stem, easton ec90 seatpost, CB 3 saddle, x2 shock. I pretty much throw it off anything. But if I lived in the mountains I would have to add a couple of pounds for sure, more meat on the front and a dropper.

 

I live in Central Florida and use my dropper all the time. lol.

 

Can you fit a Fox DHX2 coil on the 5010 v3? I have the v3 in carbon , and I will be getting a new DHX2 coil from a parts trade. I was going to sell it, or trade it, but if it will fit, I may just try it. I do not use mounted water bottles , so water bottle clearance is not an issue.

 

Yes, it will fit just fine.

Although putting DHX2 on 5010 is like putting big offroad tires on your Honda Accord

 

do you think santa cruz have gone too far with the 170mm headtube on the xl frames?
v3 version should be like a v2 bronson with better seatangle?
still cant decide if i should buy a new 5010 or bronson frame. is the v3 5010 still as playful and snappy as v2? i am currently on a v2 bronson but i dont need all of its travel most of the time. v2 5010 was a bit too sketchy in gnarly terrain but with geo update and 140-150 fork on v3 it should be spot on.

 

v2 5010 was a bit too sketchy in gnarly terrain but with geo update and 140-150 fork on v3 it should be spot on.

I have a 150mm Fox 36 on my v3 5010, and I find it's incredibly capable. I also have a Nomad 4, and the only times the 5010 lacks a little is for really big hits or consistently chunky terrain.

 

Getting ready to build my 5010 from a CC frame. GOing to throw on my 2018 Fox 36 and reduce it down to 140mm. Cannot wait to build this thing up!

Anyone who is 5'7" on a medium know if the 150mm dropper post will work?

 

Definitely, with room to spare.