[bbqmike]

Which model did you with (there are three 210x50 versions) and what combination of shock hardware did you use?

You want the standard one, BAD2069 and 20x8mm + 30x8mm shock hardware. I got mine used and added the fox 30x8 ball bearing mount since I already had one.

I'm also running a lot more volume spacers than the tuning guide recommends, I'd have to verify, but I think I'm using 3, where they say 1-1.5

 

[DevinciSean]

You want the standard one, BAD2069 and 20x8mm + 30x8mm shock hardware. I got mine used and added the fox 30x8 ball bearing mount since I already had one.

I'm also running a lot more volume spacers than the tuning guide recommends, I'd have to verify, but I think I'm using 3, where they say 1-1.5

Perfect, thanks!

 

[jasonryen]

@mp390

How do you like the 36 Grip 2?
What's your riding style and how often are you riding steep chutes with chunk?

I'm thinking about grabbing a 36 grip 2. Trying to get the most out of the v3 as opposed to building up a new bike. I bumped the 34 up to 140 but still feel under biked in some situations, mainly steeps w/ chunk.

If anyone else wants to chime in here's my thought process/theory. Reading the tech sheets for Fox 34 and 36 27.5 forks, the axle to crown measurements for a 34 @ 140mm and a 36 @ 150mm are within a few mm of each other. If my thinking is correct, then theoretically I could run the 36 @ 150 but not change the geo or raise up the front of the bike any more than I already have by increasing the 34's travel to 140mm. When flipping the chip to low and increasing travel in the 34 to 140 I noticed the slight decrease in reach, but I still have some adjustability with reach by lowering the bars 5 or 10mm as i run a 25mm spacer under the stem.

Anyone running a 36 at 150 on a v3 5010 tell me what you like and don't like about your setup.

TIA!!

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[mp390]

Hi jasonryen,

unfortunately, I cannot provide you comparison with F34, because I've never ridden it. But I can provide you a comparison with Pike Ultimate RC2 150mm which I had at the beginning.

The F36 GRIP2 is the best fork I've ever ridden. The previous Pike was not as stable in travel (I ride 2 tokens in F36 and 85 PSI) and also I felt a lot of harshness in rough terrain and big rocks - possible cause is that Pike lower legs are not so rigid so they bends which causes that inner legs are not straight in bushings and I had the feeling like the front wheel jams on that obstacles. F36 is maybe not so rigid in tests, but it seems that it bends in different part so the inner legs are still straight at the outer legs.

I also think that GRIP damper is much better than RC2 Charger 2.1 in Pike - high speed expansion works better and also compression part is slightly better.

All these small differences - better spring part, better damper and also greater rigidity allows me to be more confident in rough terrain.

With X2 rear shock the bike is moved to completely different level. I can only recommend it! I'm faster, I'm more confident. And if I compare with DPX2 shock, I can tuni it that the front and rear suspension have the same behavior.

Regarding the geometry - I think that 150mm F36 and 150mm F34 has the same AtC height (539,00mm), so it doesn't affect your geometry if you have 150mm F34.

I'm using the low setting and my geometry is following:

• Head tube angle: 65,52°
• Seat tube angle: 74,22°
• wheel base: 1197,4mm
• BB drop: 18,94mm
• BB height: 347,06mm
• Crank arm ground clearance: 177,1 (that I'm using the 170mm cranks)
• Reach: real probably 446,6mm
• Stack: 626,9mm

I've also one small comparison with Marzocchi Z1 GRIP which I've tested on my friend's Bronson V2. This fork is basically F36 Rhytm, but in comparison with F36 GRIP it has completely different feeling - it is not so stable in mid travel, but it feels like the wheel is glued to surface - there is not so good feedback from fork - it is more comfortable, but does not provide that "race" feeling that you have a very good grip, but the fork saves travel to bigger hits.

BTW I have one small update at the end of the season - I've changed XTR 12spd to XX1 AXS and it is amazing. :0) And I can finally buy a Ficlock bottle :0)

 

[woodyak]

@mp390

How do you like the 36 Grip 2?
What's your riding style and how often are you riding steep chutes with chunk?

I'm thinking about grabbing a 36 grip 2. Trying to get the most out of the v3 as opposed to building up a new bike. I bumped the 34 up to 140 but still feel under biked in some situations, mainly steeps w/ chunk.

If anyone else wants to chime in here's my thought process/theory. Reading the tech sheets for Fox 34 and 36 27.5 forks, the axle to crown measurements for a 34 @ 140mm and a 36 @ 150mm are within a few mm of each other. If my thinking is correct, then theoretically I could run the 36 @ 150 but not change the geo or raise up the front of the bike any more than I already have by increasing the 34's travel to 140mm. When flipping the chip to low and increasing travel in the 34 to 140 I noticed the slight decrease in reach, but I still have some adjustability with reach by lowering the bars 5 or 10mm as i run a 25mm spacer under the stem.

Anyone running a 36 at 150 on a v3 5010 tell me what you like and don't like about your setup.

TIA!!

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I no longer have my 5010, but I did ride mine for a season with a 150 Fox36 Grip2. At first, I rode it with a 140 in both lo and hi and ended up bumped it up almost immediately. Our trails are mostly slow technical with lots of big steep rollers, drops with rough landings, etc. I found the 140 was OK, but overall wasn't enough travel for me on the 5010. The 150 in Lo mode felt perfect on this bike, even on flowy XC stuff. My buddy had similar feelings on his bike with his Lyrik.

 

[jasonryen]

I no longer have my 5010, but I did ride mine for a season with a 150 Fox36 Grip2. At first, I rode it with a 140 in both lo and hi and ended up bumped it up almost immediately. Our trails are mostly slow technical with lots of big steep rollers, drops with rough landings, etc. I found the 140 was OK, but overall wasn't enough travel for me on the 5010. The 150 in Lo mode felt perfect on this bike, even on flowy XC stuff. My buddy had similar feelings on his bike with his Lyrik.

Sounds similar to trails I ride. I do ride some pedally stuff and some machine built, so I've wondered how the grip 2 would perform there.

What bike you runnin now?

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[woodyak]

Sounds similar to trails I ride. I do ride some pedally stuff and some machine built, so I've wondered how the grip 2 would perform there.

What bike you runnin now?

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The GRIP2 does fine for pedally and machine built stuff. Always found the 36 stayed higher in it travel which to me is better for everything. Maybe up the LSC a bit for that riding.

Sold the 5010 and went to the RipmoV1. I've resisted 29'rs for awhile until I hopped on my buddy's Ripmo and I was hooked.

 

[eastern jackal]

For anyone considering a different shock to the dpx2 for better small bump and more composure through fast chunk, I can’t recommend a megneg’d super deluxe enough. This shock is a takeoff from a 2021 5010 and so has the low/low(the stock dpx2 on the V3 also uses a low low tune) tune with a high-flow piston. The super deluxe pre megneg was noticeably better through the chunk I think mostly due to the damper/high flow piston compared to the stock dpx2. The Megneg is a much bigger change though; it has the bike melting through things that previously would slap you around or even boot you off line. The pop and pump is still there as there is increased mid support as result of the higher pressures you have to run with the Megneg can. The suspension also doesn’t have any weird hiccups or ramps toward bottom out as result of being able to remove volume spacers due to the increased shock pressure. It’s super supple off the top and then supportive with no weirdness all the way to the end. Both the dpx2 and super deluxe were/are set to the stock 50mm stroke.
Only negative I can think of is that it’s heavier than the stock dpx2; about 100grams.
I’m about 190lbs and currently running the Megneg with 2 neg bands and a gnardog spacer in the positive side(the gnardog spacer is a bit smaller than the fox .6 spacer for reference) in the positive side at 255psi which gives a smidge over 30%sag. Bottom out resistance is pretty much the same as the dpx2 that I most recently had set up with a .86 spacer at 250psi. I needed to run the dpx2 that way as I ride some bigger hits, but it felt pretty poor through the rough like that. The megneg’d super deluxe feels sublime all the way through the travel no matter the terrain.

 

[mp390]

Hi :0) I think I'm done with upgrades. I don't see anything that can be replaced to make it work better. Yes, I can start with upgrades that would reduce weight, but somehow I see no reason why I should do it.

 

[Cleared2land]

^^^^ That's a logical way to see the upgrade thing.

Cheers

 

[sherlockholmes]

Has anyone spent much time running the 5010 v3 with a 55mm stroke shock?

I've got a DVO Jade X 210x50 ordered arriving in the next few days. The stroke on these shocks can be changed easily just by switching out the bottom spring clip/retainer. I've ordered the spring clip that will change the stroke to 55mm just to experiment.

I think it will change the travel to 143mm if I understand it correctly.

Keen to hear anyone else's thoughts on running the longer stroke, pros/cons?

Will get some photos up

 

[fat_nomad]

Has anyone spent much time running the 5010 v3 with a 55mm stroke shock?

I've got a DVO Jade X 210x50 ordered arriving in the next few days. The stroke on these shocks can be changed easily just by switching out the bottom spring clip/retainer. I've ordered the spring clip that will change the stroke to 55mm just to experiment.

I think it will change the travel to 143mm if I understand it correctly.

Keen to hear anyone else's thoughts on running the longer stroke, pros/cons?

Will get some photos up

I've got a 55mm stroke on my 5010 v3 and it's very nice. However I will say that the shock itself will make a big difference. I have tried a few different 55 stroke shocks on it - coil feels good if you can dial in the setup very precisely. Currently I have an X2 at 55mm stroke and it's mind blowing.

 

[fat_nomad]

Hello, sorry for late answer.:bluefrown:

The shock is there and it's a MONSTER!
Honestly I didn't believe that it can be so big change in behaviour of rear suspension.
Maybe I'm affected by the terrible experience with the RS Deluxe RL that I borrowed instead of DPX2, but from what I remember, the DPX2 had limits in areas with a lot of large roots.
Somebody wrote here about DHX2 and how easily the bike keeps momentum with that shock if there is some curb or big root. The same, from my point of view, is true for X2.
The sensitivity is now much better, the smaller roots and stones cannot be felt at all now. The bike has more traction, I feel more confident.

The settings:

• I have 210x50mm version. I did not want to use larger stroke. With 150mm at the front and 130mm at the rear, the bike is beautifully balanced.
• There seems to be one spacer in the air chamber (I didn't look inside, but I got only 3 extra spacers with the shock). Progressivity is OK, I normally use 90% of the stroke, in the bike park I used 96%. SAG is 30%.
• Setting up compressions and expansions was easier than I expected. I started with the expansions at the recommended values for the set pressure, then only fine-tuned to be more fast. Compressions - HSC almost open, LSC somewhere in the middle. Bike is still responsive and playful with a lot of support in the middle of travel.
• Interesting is the climb switch - I still don't fully understand how it is possible that suspension is still sensitive even in firm mode. Amazing.

I will second this! The 5010 v3 with a 2021 X2 is a match made in heaven. Unreal how good this X2 is.

 

[sherlockholmes]

I've got a 55mm stroke on my 5010 v3 and it's very nice. However I will say that the shock itself will make a big difference. I have tried a few different 55 stroke shocks on it - coil feels good if you can dial in the setup very precisely. Currently I have an X2 at 55mm stroke and it's mind blowing.

Thanks dude, the Jade X arrived but I've still to actually put it on the bike to try. I run a coil shock on my Nomad. I come from a time before the rise of air shocks!

The more I think about it, I'm not so sure I'll leave the 5010 with a 55 stroke. It's more just to experiment since the Jade X stroke can be changed so easily. I have a Nomad for the chunkier stuff so the 5010 doesn't exactly NEED the extra travel but will be interesting to see how it feels.

Have some free time today to switch the shocks out and give it a quick blast.

 

[rollinrox]

I am thinking about switching out the 175 mm SRAM Stylo 7k DUB 32T cranks that came on my S+ XL with 170 mm cranks. Ideally, all I want to do is replace in kind, but it seems the Stylos are not available at retail (I read they are OEM somewhere). Does anyone know if the descendants would be a direct replacement, or what else would be?

 

[chadbrochills]

I am thinking about switching out the 175 mm SRAM Stylo 7k DUB 32T cranks that came on my S+ XL with 170 mm cranks. Ideally, all I want to do is replace in kind, but it seems the Stylos are not available at retail (I read they are OEM somewhere). Does anyone know if the descendants would be a direct replacement, or what else would be?

They are. I put 170mm Descendant carbon cranks on mine.

 

[Rekraine]

Has anyone spent much time running the 5010 v3 with a 55mm stroke shock?

I've got a DVO Jade X 210x50 ordered arriving in the next few days. The stroke on these shocks can be changed easily just by switching out the bottom spring clip/retainer. I've ordered the spring clip that will change the stroke to 55mm just to experiment.

I think it will change the travel to 143mm if I understand it correctly.

Keen to hear anyone else's thoughts on running the longer stroke, pros/cons?

Will get some photos up

Hi, I did try running on 55mm stroke on 2 different shocks, the DHX2 and the RS super deluxe ultimate for a few months. I ended up keep the super deluxe ultimate. I am also running a 150mm RS Pike Ultimate upfront.

I think it's up to the individual's preference but I do like the V3 with a little bit more travel and yet still agile and light.

 

[voghan]

I'm thinking about trying the Float X once it is available. I had to rebuild the DPX a year ago and its sounding like it could use another rebuild. I'm guessing the high PSI plus weight plus riding style is probably not that conducive to the DPXs longevity.