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49mm chainline on a boosted frame with mixed components

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#1 · (Edited)
I bought my used 2023 gt carbon high idler bike (boost)with mixed components

It has a shimano 12 speed deore cassette with hydra hubs matched with a sram gx deraileur/gx shifter/gx cranks and a 6mm offset 30T chainring with a kmc chain...

It works perfectly fine, shifts perfectly, but the chainline between the chain ring and idler pulley is off by 3 degrees...

I purchased and tried putting a 3mm Boost Sram 30T chainring on and what happens is the chainline is perfect to the high idler pulley but the largest cogs get very loud and clicky...

Is this because of the mismatched shimano cassette? Isnt the cassette spacing between shimano and sram in regards to chainline the exact same thing? Am I able to do this because im running a small 30t ring gear? The previous owner must have known what he was doing...

The 6mm ring puts the chainline more inline to the big cogs with the exception of the idler pulley...

I mainly use the 3 largest cogs on this bike as its all uphill for me...I ended up putting the 6mm offset chain ring back on....That was 5 months ago...

Any insight to this? I dont know if this is causing premature wear on anything...Ive thought about converting to shimano cranks/deraileur/shifter or even a sram hub/wheelset, but maybe I should just leave it all alone

Every couple of months , I spend hours reading about this chainline confusion trying to make sensce of it all
 
#2 ·
first things first, if you only ride in the 3 biggest cogs, then drop to a 28 or 26t. Climbing on a DH bike is a challenge. This will have a huge impact on chain and cog wear. Even when you are on the 10 or 11, the chain is still at a acute angle grinding away on your chain plates. Strive for a front ring size that allows you to ride in the middle of the cassette for a lot of the climbs, then when it gets painfully steep you can zip up to the big cogs for a brief amount of time.

If it shifts well, you don't need to go with any particular family, all modern chainlines suck, and having too much chain ring just makes it worse. And the further out the front gear is, the worse it gets i.e., 55mm chainline. Both S companies offer that, but that don't make it right!

I would say use the narrowest chain line up front possible to reduce the angle to the rear cogs, but you also have to keep the upper and lower gears in front lined up. Is there a way to move the idler inboard? This will reduce the angle to the big cog in back.. Dunno if the swingarm will hit the idler if it gets too far inboard? But more than likely you can go way inboard with the chain ring, but it's the idler gears distance from center that will create the chain angle to the cogs in back.
 
#3 ·
Thanks for the reply, im only able to find 2 companys that make sram direct mount 6mm offset 28t 12 speed chainrings
I reached out to wolftooth and they dont make one, anyone know a brand that im missing? Northshore billet is pricey


 
#5 ·
The Alugear chainrings work well. Have used them for thousands of kilometers with no issues!

I would not try to alter the chainline in a high pivot frame, especially without moving the idler as well. You’ll introduce twisting loads on the idler and likely wear out the bearings extremely quickly.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Thats been my primary concern since I found out my bike had a non boost ring.....When I purchased and put the boost 30T ring on my 2 biggest cogs made a lot of noise on the bike stand while spinning the cranks and I didnt know if that was because of my sramano configuration... It couldnt be deraileur adjustment issue could it going from non boost 30t to boost ring 30t?

Garbarok sells chainrings with mismatched chainlines, the Sram Boost 30T has a 4.3mm offset and the 28T has a 5.4mm offset...

I bet the 30T with 4.3mm offset would line me up better to the idler and perhaps take away the noise...I do want a 28T though to perhaps climb in the 3rd biggest cog...Right now im 3mm away from my idler
 
#7 ·
I just tried boosted 3mm chain ring again and what happens is the chainline from the bottom of my ring gear to the deraileur is way off. It clicks and the chain moves a lot coming off the bottom of the ring gear trying to get centered.... Its even a bit off with the non boost chainring.... Basically the deraileur needs to come away from the frame

This is what happens when you buy used and dont know much about bikes.... I can only change my hubs to sram, or change my drivetrain to shimano as my cassette is shimano and everything else is sram