[PHeller]

On One Parkwood
Canfield EPO

Both of these frames may very well fit a 3.0 tire on the right rim, but both companies threw out pictures saying "our new frame fits B+" without much detail into the clearances of said tires.

In their defense, when most of these companies were experimenting the Trailblazer might have been the only B+ tire readily available.

Thats my only gripe; I just wish that with this larger tire movement that manufactures would tell us more about the possible fitment options of frames. Just like when 650b first hit the conversion market, manufacturers started saying "will fit 26x2.5 or a 2.3 650b tire", I think manufactures will need to get in the habit of telling us "will fit 29x2.5 or 275x3.25".

 

[Reporter]

Niner MCR

Niner MCR, Dualys + Hope + CX Ray and WTB TB.
Bottom bracket 6 mm lower compared to 29" Racing Ralphs 2.2
Plenty of clearance.

 

[Forged1]

I threw on a 150mm Fox 36 on my Yelli over the weekend and sure enough, it will B+. The clearance is ample, but not quite as much as my Pike. I don't know if I could run a Fat B Nimble with the 36, whereas I know I probably could with the Pike I can get some close clearance pics if anyone wants them.

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This bike looks perfect! Well done!

 

[MISTER HYDE]

BMC Trailfox

BMC Trailfox TF2, enough space on the rear for a Trax Fatty 2.8" on Scraper rims. :thumbsup:
3.25" front (I already have that on a Front frame) but maybe will change for a 3" o 2.8".
2.8" tyre on this rim is 73mm wide and 732mm diameter.

 

[PHeller]

BMC Trailfox TF2, enough space on the rear for a Trax Fatty 2.8" on Scraper rims. 2.8" tyre on this rim is 73mm wide and 732mm diameter.

Nice! That's a sweet frame with some added versatility.

 

[rsullivan]

On One Parkwood
Canfield EPO

Both of these frames may very well fit a 3.0 tire on the right rim, but both companies threw out pictures saying "our new frame fits B+" without much detail into the clearances of said tires.

In their defense, when most of these companies were experimenting the Trailblazer might have been the only B+ tire readily available.

Thats my only gripe; I just wish that with this larger tire movement that manufactures would tell us more about the possible fitment options of frames. Just like when 650b first hit the conversion market, manufacturers started saying "will fit 26x2.5 or a 2.3 650b tire", I think manufactures will need to get in the habit of telling us "will fit 29x2.5 or 275x3.25".

Since I was there when they fit the WTB Scraper rim and Trail Blazer 2.8 to the EPO... I can confirm you can definitely fit the Dually rim with the 3.25 Panaracer Fat b Nimble in it. There was loads of room on the chainstays for mud clearance with the Scraper/TB combo.

 

[PHeller]

That is sweet. I wish Canfield would have been more forthcoming with that info.

The EPO was pretty much dream hardtail, now that Trek Stache+ is out it may have some competition, especially if Trek does the Stache in carbon...

 

[rsullivan]

If the Stache+ rides similar in geo to the old Stache.... it won't even come close to the EPO in ride quality. .. what I have seen the EPO do on the trail.... I wouldn't even try on the Stache

 

[PHeller]

I'm not sure 405mm chainstays are anything like the old Stache.

Ride quality aluminum vs carbon I'm sure could be debated.

Just for fun here is a table comparing geometry between the Stache Plus and the EPO. Keep in mind the Stache Plus is designed around 29x3.0 tires, and the chainstays could actually be brought in shorter with "normal" 29x2.4 tires or B+.

The EPO is clearly more "All mountain" with its aggressive BB drop and longer reach.

 

[BXCc]

Trek may not be doing a carbon version but here is a cheap chinese one. But no matter how good the Stache is, it's still a Trek. I'll take an EPO thanks.

WCB-M-078 27.5+/ 29 /29+-workswellbikes

 

[PHeller]

... but here is a cheap chinese one.

EDIT: Vaporware at this point.

Yea, the people who buy Canfield products typically aren't interested in a Trek product no matter how similar they might be.

 

[kamper11]

Jumping in here - as my LBS built up my I9 hubs w the new Easton ARC 30 (30mm internal) and proposed the idea of the WTB TB 2.8 to try em on the wheel - on my Norco Sight 650B -

does ANYONE have any thoughts on whether this be a good idea?? I read the thread, and there are some posts in here by some resources I trust - that point my thinking in the direction that it might work.

its a traditional 650b frame w a 150mm pike. I know it likely will be determined once we mount one of these tires and look at fit in the frame and fork, but thought I'd gain any feedback I could before i go "all in" w the idea.

thanks in advance!

 

[kamper11]

Its a no-go! Trailblazer 2.8 too big in the swinger...

 

[Savierk]

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Nice clearance using wide lightning wheels, trailblazer tires front and rear. Wouldn't want to go any larger with rear tire but I already want the Nobby Nic 3.0 in front.

I also have wide lightning 29er wheels using an Ardent 2.4 in front and the trailblazer is not mean enough in front for me.

Could you take a picture of rear tire clearance and also measure it?

 

[rokdad]

Rigid

2011 El Mariachi (small), WTB Trailblazers, Velocity Blunt 35.

 

[AZDUSTER]

Saw this listed on ebay, might be interesting.

Full Carbon 27 5 29 29er thru Axle MTB Frame 27 5ER Plus 29er Plus MTB Frame | eBay

 

[BXCc]

Saw this listed on ebay, might be interesting.

Full Carbon 27 5 29 29er thru Axle MTB Frame 27 5ER Plus 29er Plus MTB Frame | eBay

That's the same frame I posted about in post #130. I've been watching another frame from that same seller and their bikes are unique and the same as the "workswellbikes.com" bikes. The geometry has changed some though. The CS's are a little shorter and the HA is steeper on the eBay frame. I actually like the eBay one better.

 

[AZDUSTER]

That's the same frame I posted about in post #130. I've been watching another frame from that same seller and their bikes are unique and the same as the "workswellbikes.com" bikes. The geometry has changed some though. The CS's are a little shorter and the HA is steeper on the eBay frame. I actually like the eBay one better.

I would like to see actual pictures of this frame and not just computer renderings. I like the geometry as well as the smaller diameter seatpost. I am almost finished building up a aluminum Carver Gnarvester for my wife and would of considered this frame if I knew for sure it was available.

 

[BXCc]

I would like to see actual pictures of this frame and not just computer renderings.

Me too
The geo on the website with a 67 HA is too slack for what i am looking for (69 to 70 with 120mm fork). Like the short stays and longish TT though. BUT the 69.5 HA on the eBay page looks like a winner. Like most of the chinese carbon frames, that would be based off of a 100mm fork.

 

[rokdad]

Anyone know the biggest 27.5+ combo that will work on a Salsa El Mariachi (with alternator dropouts)? Seems like you could squeeze a pretty big 27.5 tire in there, especially if you swung the dropouts back...

I didn't have to move the dropouts to fit a WTB Trailblazer. In fact, I now have at least as much if not more clearance than I did with a WTB Exiwolf on a 29er rim. For me, using the Blunt 35 rim resulted in a 1cm BB drop.