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This is going out on a limb, but has anyone tried to put B+ tires on a Santa Cruz Heckler?

I just picked one up and will be trying it out when it shows up next week. Should be interesting.
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Before

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After - lots of clearance with Trail Blazers.

Not my bike. I'll get my buddy to jump in here and give you some feedback.
 
dustyduke22 yup running on 35mm LB rims. More than enough room I could easily run larger tires. I suspect even on the 45mm scrapers I could run larger than the TB's.

Love the additional crank clearance, love the roll on soft or gravel. Traction wise it seems to be pretty good on climbing but not so great bombing downhill and braking traction is much less compared to the HRII's that were on there before. The TB's just aren't meant for aggressive BC trail riding, I'd happily use them bikepacking though.
 
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dustyduke22 yup running on 35mm LB rims. More than enough room I could easily run larger tires. I suspect even on the 45mm scrapers I could run larger than the TB's.

Love the additional crank clearance, love the roll on soft or gravel. Traction wise it seems to be pretty good on climbing but not so great bombing downhill and braking traction is much less compared to the HRII's that were on there before. The TB's just aren't meant for aggressive BC trail riding, I'd happily use them bikepacking though.
This is good news. Any chance the TB's will clear a 27.5 Fox 36? That is going to be the kicker :)

Bike looks burly :)
 
Tires: Panaracer 27.5" x 3.5", 120 TPI, folding
Rims: Velocity Blunt, measured 28mm outer width with my digital calipers
Tubes: 29" Specialized

Frame: Performance Access XCL 29er frame (2010) 17"
Fork: Surly Karate Monkey (2007?)
Comments: this older fork has the V-brake bosses on it, and had to deflate the tire to get past them. The frame has a lot of clearance, probably because of the flattened chainstays. I wouldn't worry about mud clearance on this frame.


B+ by Rickyd, on Flickr

Frame: Jeff Jones titanium 3-D SpaceFrame (2008, Merlin-made)
Fork: Jones Truss Fat Fork
Comments: There is less room between the tire and the chainstays compared to the Performance (above). If trails were muddy, I probably wouldn't ride it... but I wouldn't be riding muddy trails anyways :) Seriously, I'd be more concerned if the wheel needed to be trued. Re: the front, it's a 26x4.0 45Nrth Husker Du. The front fork will easily swallow a 5" tire for dinner, so a B+ would be a piece of cake.


Jones Spaceframe (B+ Rear, Fat Front) by Rickyd, on Flickr

I haven't had a chance to put many miles on either set up, but my short singletrack test track down the block showed me that both setups should work fine.
 
Oh man I'd snap up one of those Performance frames if they have them in a size that fit my wife. Only 21" and 23":eekster:
 
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No idea on that fork I'm afraid, may be posted elsewhere.
My New Fox 36 showed up and the TrailBlazer 2.8 fits with room to spare when on the WTB i45 Scraper rim. Now my Heckler frame just needs to show up and I'll be set :)
 
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B+ Heckler

Hey Guys,

As promised, here are some pics of my new SC Heckler set up B+.

I had ordered new rims and hubs to build up some normal 650b wheels, but decided to try the bike with the WTB i45 rims first. I am sure glad I did.

On that same note, I didn't order B+ specific tires, but used the WTB Breakout 2.5. It has a smaller b2b compared to the TrailBlazer 2.8, measuring between 60 and 62 compared to the 65 of the TB. Overall, I think I actually like the Breakout better. The tire casing is much more square, and the tread pattern has a nice round shape. Talk about traction and wanting to throw your bike into super techy descents!

The knobs are huge, and are nearly inline with the sidewall casing. If you have been on the fence about B+ tires not being meaty enough, I would highly recommend going this route. The tire measures right at 28.25 inches tall. I will get a width measurement and edit the post





 
Dusty: those tires seem to be blurring the line between 27.5 plus and non-plus.

Really they're just a meaty 27.5. My Conti TK 2.4 are the same height - honestly maybe even a millimetre taller - but the Breakout's are definitely wider.

For reference, the Trail Blazers are about 13mm taller (about 1/2 inch) than the ones you have on here: they're 726mm compared to what you have measured the Breakout's (713mm/28inches).
 
I've got the Breakout on the front of my ride right now, and while its a great tire, its heavy. I hope to see more 2.8 tires that are bigger than the Trailblazer 2.6, lighter than the Breakout 2.5 but still small enough to fit the arch of a Pike 275.
 
I've got the Breakout on the front of my ride right now, and while its a great tire, its heavy. I hope to see more 2.8 tires that are bigger than the Trailblazer 2.6, lighter than the Breakout 2.5 but still small enough to fit the arch of a Pike 275.
I think the Trailblazer will be about as big as a tire that will clear the 27.5 Pike.

WTB tells me they've tried it and it JUST clears (height wise) but they say they do not recommend it because it is such a close fit.
 
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