I think we'll see some new tires announced at Sea Otter in a couple weeks.

 

Rekon race rear.
rekon front.

 

Looking at 29x2.35 Ground controls. On Spesh's web page it list 870g for the Grid and 845g for the control casing. Is that right? Feels like there should be a wider gap in weight between the two. Fast Trak control v. Grid is 715g to 800g a difference of 85g instead of just 25g.

 

My 2.35 Ground Control Control's are 790g. Same as my Gen1 Forekaster 2.35.

 

Side-to side picture with Rush vs Burt, if anybody wants to see the difference.

 

Took a little inspiration from Dylan Johnson and put two Thunder Burt 2.25s on my gravel bike. They measure narrow at a true 2.15" so they barely fit. A set of Thunder Burt 2.1s (2.0 actual) would be perfect for a little extra clearance. It feels like a gravel bike with cushy tires on it, but should be a little more fun on trails.

The Kenda Rush center knobs look a little taller, like an Aspen? Let us know how it rolls. Generally speaking the fastest (gravel worthy) tires are Thunder Burt and Continental Race King.

 

I loved running the under 500gram Thunder Burt on my gravel bike. Downside being not that durable. Race Kings fixes that, but trade of for me was bit less supple.

 

So the Tufo wasn't actually that bad when BRR tested the current version. Kenda Rush SCT 29x2.4 should be tested soon, curious to find out the results.

 

Has anyone run the 60TPI Rekon Race for super technical courses that are known for flats or have any opinions on running 60TPI in the rear of a hardtail? Is it more advantageous to just use an insert on the 120TPI RR?

 

I ran the 60 tpi RR on the rear of my race/trail bike in 2021. Sought it out specifically (it was hard to find at the time) because flimsy tires flat easily where I ride. I raced a few races on it but also left it on for a full lifespan of trail riding. It seemed to roll fast, and it was durable enough for me.

 

Hutchinson Python Race, lighter alternative for Thunder Burt, with claimed weight of 600 grams? Pinkbike article

 

I’ll be buying these as soon as a retailer makes them available!

 

Hutchy Pythons were my first tubeless tyres back in the day.
The didn't look remotely like that though...

 

Hutchy Pythons were my first tubeless tyres back in the day.
The didn't look remotely like that though...

Mine as well. The new Python 3 (also in the article) looks a lot more like the original.

 

Somewhere back in this thread, I postulated that it wouldn't be long before we XC racers were running "Gravel Tyres",

As the snow thaws, the merging of the two disciplines WRT tire design is starting to reveal itself.

 

At around 600grams for a 2.4 tire, that's less than some 45-50mm gravel tires & 2.0-2.2 xc tires.

 

Fast Trak vs Mezcal, which is the all-round faster & which is better as a rear tire?

 

The more I've ridden the Mezcal, the less I like it. It's fast but sketchy on loose over hard. Unless you are super careful with your break modulation, the rear end drips out easily. I've had no complaints about the Fast Trak though as a rear tire, I prefer the Renegade.

 

New tire launch day galore

Vittoria

Bontrager

Maxxis

 

New tire launch day galore

Vittoria

Bontrager

Maxxis

Just ordered a set of Peyotes. New Hunt wheels delivering today. I have been running a barzo/,mezcal combo on i25 rims. Looking to try these less lugged wider tires on a wider wheel. Hoping to be fast and fun!

 

Regarding the new Vittoria tires, I've got about 1000 miles on the 2.4 Peyotes and more than that on the 2.4 Mezcals in XC Race casing. A couple notes:

1. The new XC race casing is completely different from past iterations, I'd never trust it here in NW Arkansas but the new XC Race casing/compound is way more durable and they've engineered some sort of increased suppleness/compliance despite going from 120tpi to 60tpi. No, it doesn't make sense, yes it's noticeably more damped (you feel everything on a carbon hardtail)
2. The slight increase on the Mezcal from 2.35 to 2.4 (yes it's actually different per my calipers not just marketing) combined with the new compound lets me run the Mezcal as a front tire where normally my skills didn't allow that.
3. The Peyote is fast AF, like semi slick levels of straight line speed but doesn't seem to give up much if anything in the corners to the Mezcal.
4. Peyote braking/climbing traction is really good with all the effective edges I guess, just get the pressure right. I'm 80kg and running 17ish front and 18ish rear, insert in rear only.
5. I only have 200-300mi with a front Peyote but I was surprised how well it hooked up just looking at it.

Those are my thoughts/experiences with the new ones from the perspective of a midpack dad, YMMV.

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Thanks for the review. Regardless of ability, attesting to durability on the machine-built shards of NW Arkansas is a great endorsement. They tore my Pirellis to smithereens.

Lots of great, wide semi-slicks to choose from these days. Peyote looks like a good one.

Regarding the new Vittoria tires, I've got about 1000 miles on the 2.4 Peyotes and more than that on the 2.4 Mezcals in XC Race casing. A couple notes:

1. The new XC race casing is completely different from past iterations, I'd never trust it here in NW Arkansas but the new XC Race casing/compound is way more durable and they've engineered some sort of increased suppleness/compliance despite going from 120tpi to 60tpi. No, it doesn't make sense, yes it's noticeably more damped (you feel everything on a carbon hardtail)
2. The slight increase on the Mezcal from 2.35 to 2.4 (yes it's actually different per my calipers not just marketing) combined with the new compound lets me run the Mezcal as a front tire where normally my skills didn't allow that.
3. The Peyote is fast AF, like semi slick levels of straight line speed but doesn't seem to give up much if anything in the corners to the Mezcal.
4. Peyote braking/climbing traction is really good with all the effective edges I guess, just get the pressure right. I'm 80kg and running 17ish front and 18ish rear, insert in rear only.
5. I only have 200-300mi with a front Peyote but I was surprised how well it hooked up just looking at it.

Those are my thoughts/experiences with the new ones from the perspective of a midpack dad, YMMV.

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I want some of these peyotes, they so expensive though

 

It's just money man, and you need new tires every year any how

 

I’m waiting for Conti to make Cross King & Race King in 2.4

 

Conservative Germans man...

They still believe that lightweight small tires are the fastest only...

 

Son will be XC racing in the rain this Sunday. Rocks roots and clay. How Barzo in that situation? I just bought two XC-Trail in 29x2.35 to put on his bike. Had to put the rear on right away as he slashed his Rekon Race 2.4WT. Front has a 2.6 Dual Compound Gen 1 Forekaster that's just shy of 1kg. Should I just keep that on there or go ahead and put the new Barzo on there?

 

Barzo's good, but Rocket Ron is heroic in mud.

 

Have these been posted yet? Just as I am looking to ditch the yellow labels and move on, they pull me back in.

 

Recieved my ST 170tpi today , 691g

little comparison with other "fast" tyres:

 

What are the two tires to right of the aspen st? Kenda Rush and?

 

Wolfpack Speed

 

Based on specs & tread pattern, what do we think of the Hutchinson Python Race vs the Peyote vs the established tires in this category?

 

I'm not sure about this new Peyote. They ditched the stepped side knobs (but kept them on the Mezcal ???) and reduced their height. The original peyote cornered crazy good. Even in 2.2 it astounded me how good it was. In 2.4 it would be amazing. oh well.

 

Mezcal front, Peyote rear ?

(Mezcal also corners great)

 

Sounds like what Vittoria is suggesting, unless one needs an even faster rear tire for gravel but a grippy front still. In that case, Terreno XC rear & Mezcal front I guess.