[Cell4soul]

Cool. It looks like this is the perfect bike for that sort of riding and terrain. I only get about 15 miles and 2500 ft. of climbing using a similar mix of boost modes, riding rocky east coast terrain.

I think these range numbers are the extent of what the TQ setup will accomplish. I can get about 20 miles and 3,000’. This ride, if I drained the battery to zero, would have been about 25 miles and 2,500’.

 

[Tama John]

TQ is quiet, but not that efficient.

I guess that's the trade-off w/50 nm?

Looks like a fun bike.

 

[bjeast]

Hey all, sorry if this has been covered, but I could have sworn that a couple of reviews mentioned that there is some sort of Trek bash guard for the chain ring that is or will be available, since the bike lacks the usual mounting points. However, my local shop wasn't able to dig up any info on this. Did I hallucinate this?

 

[JonJones]

Hey all, sorry if this has been covered, but I could have sworn that a couple of reviews mentioned that there is some sort of Trek bash guard for the chain ring that is or will be available, since the bike lacks the usual mounting points. However, my local shop wasn't able to dig up any info on this. Did I hallucinate this?

I'd be interested in this myself. I broke the chainring and trashed the chain and it's been a few weeks waiting for Trek to get a replacement.

The bike rides so capably, it absolutely should be specced with one.

 

[bjeast]

Oh and another question. My local shop said that while we can up the travel on the Lyrik to 160, a Zeb at 160 is not advised because of the "rake" (their word) of the Zeb. This means that 150 is the max recommended travel for the Zeb (which can be done after purchase). Does this seem correct? Any chance Mitch could weight in on this?

 

[JonJones]

Oh and another question. My local shop said that while we can up the travel on the Lyrik to 160, a Zeb at 160 is not advised because of the "rake" (their word) of the Zeb. This means that 150 is the max recommended travel for the Zeb (which can be done after purchase). Does this seem correct? Any chance Mitch could weight in on this?

I'd be surprised if it's the rake. I think the A2C measurement of the Zeb and Fox 38 is longer than the Lyrik and 36 at the same travel. That's what would cause the issue.

Of course @Mitch@Trek would have the last word.

 

[bjeast]

I'd be surprised if it's the rake. I think the A2C measurement of the Zeb and Fox 38 is longer than the Lyrik and 36 at the same travel. That's what would cause the issue.

Of course @Mitch@Trek would have the last word.

Ah, that makes more sense! Hopefully Mitch can chime in!

 

[FM]

160mm airshafts for the 2023 Lyrik won’t be available for a few months, and older versions aren’t compatible. I went with a 160mm Zeb ultimate for those reasons and am really happy with it. “Not advisable” is different than “voids the warranty”- I can say it does ride well!

 

[bjeast]

160mm airshafts for the 2023 Lyrik won’t be available for a few months, and older versions aren’t compatible. I went with a 160mm Zeb ultimate for those reasons and am really happy with it. “Not advisable” is different than “voids the warranty”- I can say it does ride well!

Thanks! I mean if it’s a good ride, I don’t see the problem. As long as it doesn’t void the warranty, that would be the route I’d like to go as opposed to waiting a few months for the lyrik airshaft. Is there anyway we can confirm if that would work for the warranty or did you ask someone?

 

[FM]

I didn’t ask- just assumed 160mm travel max was their warranty stipulation.
I really liked the Lyrik, but with mullet wheels the BB was on the low side for rockier trails.
The Zeb feels fantastic. I have a 170mm fox 38 factory on another bike, interesting to note the differences. Both these new rockshox forks ride really high in their travel without using LSC.

and I’m not worried about the fork. If anything else goes wrong, it’d be a messy warranty since I’ve swapped out so many parts (fork, wheels, bar, stem, seatpost)

 

[bjeast]

I didn’t ask- just assumed 160mm travel max was their warranty stipulation.
I really liked the Lyrik, but with mullet wheels the BB was on the low side for rockier trails.
The Zeb feels fantastic. I have a 170mm fox 38 factory on another bike, interesting to note the differences. Both these new rockshox forks ride really high in their travel without using LSC.

and I’m not worried about the fork. If anything else goes wrong, it’d be a messy warranty since I’ve swapped out so many parts (fork, wheels, bar, stem, seatpost)

thanks! I mean you do have a point, in that they stipulate 160 being the maximum travel, without actually saying, it’s limited to a particular fork.

 

[dancingwithmyself]

Hey all, sorry if this has been covered, but I could have sworn that a couple of reviews mentioned that there is some sort of Trek bash guard for the chain ring that is or will be available, since the bike lacks the usual mounting points. However, my local shop wasn't able to dig up any info on this. Did I hallucinate this?

No. Same recollection from reviews. But I think there was a misunderstanding on what would be spec'd on production bikes and the reviews should have said chain guide.

 

[bjeast]

No. Same recollection from reviews. But I think there was a misunderstanding on what would be spec'd on production bikes and the reviews should have said chain guide.

Thanks! It would be great to know if we could at least order it!

 

[dancingwithmyself]

Thanks! It would be great to know if we could at least order it!

I don't think it exists. You can't bolt it to the frame with only the two mounting points. It'd have to be something like the wolftooth bash ring. But I think that would mean you'd lose the chain guide, so pick your poison. If you have the two-piece spider and ring that comes on the nicer builds, I think you can just order one of the bash rings and it will work.

If not, FSA (which is out of left field) makes the spider. I couldn't find as a consumer, but my LBS was able to backorder one. I traded all the parts back to my LBS for credit and the cranks and ring are the only thing left. Planning to keep the cranks, but go to a SS wolftooth ring as soon as I can get my hands on the spider.

Not sure how other ebikes handle this as I'd never consider a full-powered ebike and wasn't willing to listen to the EP8 rattle, so haven't looked hard at other ebikes. I would never buy a real bike without ISG tabs, but I was really buying the TQ motor with the frame it happened to be attached to (not that I don't love the bike; there just weren't any other competitors to choose from).

As an aside, the BB is low as f*ck. The BB height numbers in the geo chart are either errors or weird CAD numbers. Compare them to those for the new EX and the EX drop. Makes absolutely no sense.

What matters is the BB drop, and 41mm in low is way lower than most comparable bikes. I'd caution against throwing it in low and never considering high, especially if you're doing "trail rides" as opposed to pedaling up fire roads and plummeting down with little pedaling. Took me a minute to figure out why I was struggling with pedal strikes because I was being lazy and looking at the quoted BB height and not thinking.

Hope this helps.

 

[bjeast]

It helps, though not what I was hoping for. Darn. And I do tend to run in low, just because of where I ride it! Crap. On my Enduro I hit the bashguard enough to make me very glad I have it.... Honestly don't care about the chain guide, though! Of course, that might be one of those things that you don't miss until you don't have it!

 

[wizard604]

All the more reason to run a 160mm fork as that will raise the BB height and still run it on low mode.

 

[Mitch@Trek]

Oh and another question. My local shop said that while we can up the travel on the Lyrik to 160, a Zeb at 160 is not advised because of the "rake" (their word) of the Zeb. This means that 150 is the max recommended travel for the Zeb (which can be done after purchase). Does this seem correct? Any chance Mitch could weight in on this?

I'd be surprised if it's the rake. I think the A2C measurement of the Zeb and Fox 38 is longer than the Lyrik and 36 at the same travel. That's what would cause the issue.

Of course @Mitch@Trek would have the last word.

Ah, that makes more sense! Hopefully Mitch can chime in!

The Zeb surpasses the axle-to-crown limit we have for the Fuel EXe by a meer 3mm. Our limit is 573mm and the 160mm Zeb comes in at 576mm. Run it at your own discretion, but know it is over the listed max AC measurement! A 150mm Zeb would keep you under, and still ride like a bullet.

 

[bjeast]

Thanks Mitch!

 

[sacrefrancais]

The Zeb surpasses the axle-to-crown limit we have for the Fuel EXe by a meer 3mm. Our limit is 573mm and the 160mm Zeb comes in at 576mm. Run it at your own discretion, but know it is over the listed max AC measurement! A 150mm Zeb would keep you under, and still ride like a bullet.

Can you clarify the purpose of the limit? I was told the same thing when I called Trek about the Fox 36 running at 160 versus 150 on the '22 FEX. Is it the tolerance of the head tube?

 

[wizard604]

Went for

It helps, though not what I was hoping for. Darn. And I do tend to run in low, just because of where I ride it! Crap. On my Enduro I hit the bashguard enough to make me very glad I have it.... Honestly don't care about the chain guide, though! Of course, that might be one of those things that you don't miss until you don't have it!

Hit my chainring a couple of times today. Luckily didn't do any damage but I would say that a bashguard is a good idea. Currently geo set to low and running 30% rear sag. Hopefully someone will make something that will fit. Currently there are only 2 bolts on the frame that hold the chain guide. You might possibly be able mount as chainring/bash guard using those 2 bolts. Obviously it wont be as as solid as ISCG mount but may be good enough.

Maybe something like:
E*Thirteen or similar might work

I might reduce the sag a bit or go 160 on the fork to keep the BB height high. The other option is to run the mino link in high position, but I prefer to keep the bike as slacker