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Anybody have a view on sizing yet? I'm 5''10 and ordered a Medium. Looking at the charts I'm wondering if I should better size up. Even with a longer dropper post I guess I will be close to the limit in terms of seat post excerpt. On the other hand a Large is a big jump in terms of reach and may be much less playful.
 
Anybody have a view on sizing yet? I'm 5''10 and ordered a Medium. Looking at the charts I'm wondering if I should better size up. Even with a longer dropper post I guess I will be close to the limit in terms of seat post excerpt. On the other hand a Large is a big jump in terms of reach and may be much less playful.
did they give you an ETA on when it might show up?


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I actually like the black a lot too

Here’s some pics of it from when I took screenshots off Instagram a while back

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Looks a little more grey than black?
 
My plan for my C50 is to upgrade wheels (1 alloy set and 1 carbon set), upgrade the dropper, stem, and bars (keep them aluminum), and finally grab a 120mm stepcast. Carbon wheels and the Step-Cast for racing, swap back to the regular 34 and the alloy wheels for off-season or hearty mid-country stuff. Longer days deeper into Pisgah, I'll take my 2020 Instinct C70.
I'm fairly sure the C50 comes with a stepcast 34, at least it looks like that. I also plan on upgrading the bars, saddle, dropper, and maybe play around with tires. I think it would fit DHF/DHR, but that probably won't suit the bike too well. Maybe Ardent/Ikon would be a good pair?

Anybody have a view on sizing yet? I'm 5''10 and ordered a Medium. Looking at the charts I'm wondering if I should better size up. Even with a longer dropper post I guess I will be close to the limit in terms of seat post excerpt. On the other hand a Large is a big jump in terms of reach and may be much less playful.
I'm 5'10 and ride a size M Altitude, so I am going for M as well. I have short-ish legs for my height so I need a longer reach with a shorter seat-tube. While I did fit on the size L Altitude, it was quite stretched out, and as a result I am sticking with the medium.
It doesn't even come down to having a more playful bike, it's more of I don't want my bikes to feel too different to each other, and so I can actually fit on them. A L with a 175mm dropper post would be too long for my legs.
 
The ONLY things I am keeping on the c50 I ordered are the bottom bracket and headset. Every single other thing is being replaced with XTR, piggyback shock, 140mm Pike, carbon 240 wheels, carbon bars, yadda Yadda. All the removed parts will go on another frame.
 
The ONLY things I am keeping on the c50 I ordered are the bottom bracket and headset. Every single other thing is being replaced with XTR, piggyback shock, 140mm Pike, carbon 240 wheels, carbon bars, yadda Yadda. All the removed parts will go on another frame.
What frame are you going to be building up?
 
Err…no?

I am stripping the c50 down to it’s bottom bracket, and replacing every. Single. Thing.
All the parts from the c50 are going on a different new frame, (not sure what that will be just yet, not a rocky) and being sold as new.
I hope that clarifies?
 
The ONLY things I am keeping on the c50 I ordered are the bottom bracket and headset. Every single other thing is being replaced with XTR, piggyback shock, 140mm Pike, carbon 240 wheels, carbon bars, yadda Yadda. All the removed parts will go on another frame.
Once you getting the C50, can you scale it before you taking off the original parts and after you changing everything?
 
Weights are posted on the RM site:
  • C30 - 29.9 lbs
  • C50 - 28.2 lbs
  • C70 - 27.5 lbs
Heavier than I was hoping.
Wow, those things are pigs. My Large aluminum bike with better geometry weighs 23.5 pounds with pedals (no dropper).
 
Wow, those things are pigs. My Large aluminum bike with better geometry weighs 23.5 pounds with pedals (no dropper).
Found some German sites with weights. For the top of the line C90 large without pedals they had 10.7,10.8 and 10.9 kg for a large on 3 different sites, so that is 23.5 to 24 pounds. One site weighted it with pedals, 2 bottles and cages, tubes in the tires and "heavier attachments" at 11.7kg or 25.8 pounds(doesn't say what size, but pics look like a large). Not sure what heavier attachments means, that is what Google translated from German.

Rocky says the C90 is 24.6 and doesn't specify what size this is. I'm guessing that Rocky is weighing these with tubes?

Also here is a look at similar products

$9000 Transition Spur is 24.7lbs
$10,000 Scott Spark 900 Tuned AXS is 25.3lbs in large
$7000 Canyon Lux Trail CF 9 is 26.2lbs (not sure on size)
$9500 Trek Top Fuel 9.9 xtr is 25.9lbs in size medium

I got these weights from manufacture sites and a few different reviews from different sites, so not consistent. Looking at this info I would say the Element is at the lighter side of the competition by a hair. Canyon of course being the outlier in price, I would think that similarly priced builds from the competition will be in line with the Element
 
So, I am supposed to get my frame only in a week or so, I will post pics of it on a scale naked. Built weight won’t be super light, as it will have a piggyback shock, 140mm Pike, EXO+ rear 2.4 tire, exo+ 2.5 front, etc. but it will be full XTR, carbon bars, transfer post, Ti rail saddle, carbon/240 wheels, etc.
my guess is going to be ~27 built as a very, very capable short travel rig.
 
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