[teethandnails]

Somehow.... my stock C50 snagged bike of the day on Vital. Likely because of all the bottle cage action lol.

So.... C50 Size Large. Never weight weenied in the past, but have been tracking the weight.

28.59lbs with tubes, no pedals, completely stock.
28.46lbs with NO tubes, but Cushcore XC added in the rear & Wolftooth dropper lever
29.56lbs with Shimano PD540 pedals, Specialized bottle cages with SWAT tool in the rear cage
29.79lbs with pedals, cages, NO SWAT tool, and switched the tires for Specialized Butcher & Eliminator 29x2.3 T7 Grid compound's (did ONE ride with the Rekons... no bueno)

I bought a little digital kitchen scale on Amazon, and found out the stock wheels (WTB i27/RaceFace Trace hubs) Weigh in at 1959g with valves/tape. So those are gonna go pretty soon. I didn't both weighing the handlebar and stem, but I will once I install the OneUp carbon bar I have on order.

One ride of the bike has be convinced that I am going to be riding this bike ALOT. The fit and on trail geo feels similar to my Canfield Lithium, and it feels pretty damn capable, and once I have the suspension dialed in... I think its gonna rip! I have a feeling that I will be upgrading the brakes once the bike starts getting more dialed.

 

[rideit]

With a zero stack lower? Or with a 7.5 or 10mm?

I just got it as a frame, so zero stack (just the headset).

 

[mtn_dewd]

My shop (in Canada) said they’ve been told by Rocky they can’t get a frame-only until 2024. That’s not a typo. 2024.

I have been wanting a "shreddy" short travel rig for a while, when the reviews for the Element starting dropping, I was convinced it was "the one". I called my closest Rocky dealer and they said the same thing... no frames until after 2023! A complete was out of the question because I just prefer Sram/Rockshox. I called another shop and they had ONE left in my size. So even though I wasn't planning on building another bike right now, here we are. I have a Deluxe en route because I can't stand mismatched suspenders. Fork is sitting at 140 and I may keep it there because it fits my riding style. Really pumped for some snow to melt so I can take'r for a spin.

 

[CannondaleF9]

Picked mine up last night from the shop. Large C50, fully stock with tubes. Weighs under 28.5 lbs. I haven't swapped parts over for what I'm actually going to run, but I will say, the oem stem and bars at 31.8 make the bike look cheap. Looks like im ordering some bars. View attachment 1965016

Glad to know the weight! I don't have a scale at home so I was going off what the site said.

Rocky always specs their bikes with cheap, shiny black bars that definitely don't fit the look or feel of their bikes. I always change them out for Raceface stuff anyway so I've gotten used to that reality, but it would be nice to see at least Aeffect level stuff coming stock on these bikes, I agree. I am going with a 50 or 60mm stem and I'll cut a set of Turbine bars down to 780mm to run with a 35 clamp.

I do really like that the C50 comes with an XT shifter and derailleur, I would have swapped to an XT if it was SLX but it's just one fewer thing to do.

 

[CannondaleF9]

I have been wanting a "shreddy" short travel rig for a while, when the reviews for the Element starting dropping, I was convinced it was "the one". I called my closest Rocky dealer and they said the same thing... no frames until after 2023! A complete was out of the question because I just prefer Sram/Rockshox. I called another shop and they had ONE left in my size. So even though I wasn't planning on building another bike right now, here we are. I have a Deluxe en route because I can't stand mismatched suspenders. Fork is sitting at 140 and I may keep it there because it fits my riding style. Really pumped for some snow to melt so I can take'r for a spin.

View attachment 1965061

The bike looks good, I'm the other way around, I knew I had to buy one this year because it was a Shimano bike. They'll probably be SRAM for the next couple years, same with the rest of the lineup.

 

[teethandnails]

Glad to know the weight! I don't have a scale at home so I was going off what the site said.

Rocky always specs their bikes with cheap, shiny black bars that definitely don't fit the look or feel of their bikes. I always change them out for Raceface stuff anyway so I've gotten used to that reality, but it would be nice to see at least Aeffect level stuff coming stock on these bikes, I agree. I am going with a 50 or 60mm stem and I'll cut a set of Turbine bars down to 780mm to run with a 35 clamp.

I do really like that the C50 comes with an XT shifter and derailleur, I would have swapped to an XT if it was SLX but it's just one fewer thing to do.

I'm with ya. Not picky about Fox or Rockshox... but I want the Shimano shifting for sure.

 

[williford]

Somehow.... my stock C50 snagged bike of the day on Vital. Likely because of all the bottle cage action lol.

So.... C50 Size Large. Never weight weenied in the past, but have been tracking the weight.

28.59lbs with tubes, no pedals, completely stock.
28.46lbs with NO tubes, but Cushcore XC added in the rear & Wolftooth dropper lever
29.56lbs with Shimano PD540 pedals, Specialized bottle cages with SWAT tool in the rear cage
29.79lbs with pedals, cages, NO SWAT tool, and switched the tires for Specialized Butcher & Eliminator 29x2.3 T7 Grid compound's (did ONE ride with the Rekons... no bueno)

I bought a little digital kitchen scale on Amazon, and found out the stock wheels (WTB i27/RaceFace Trace hubs) Weigh in at 1959g with valves/tape. So those are gonna go pretty soon. I didn't both weighing the handlebar and stem, but I will once I install the OneUp carbon bar I have on order.

One ride of the bike has be convinced that I am going to be riding this bike ALOT. The fit and on trail geo feels similar to my Canfield Lithium, and it feels pretty damn capable, and once I have the suspension dialed in... I think its gonna rip! I have a feeling that I will be upgrading the brakes once the bike starts getting more dialed.

Looks like you have RideWrap or Invisiframe installed there. What product did you use?

 

[teethandnails]

Looks like you have RideWrap or Invisiframe installed there. What product did you use?

it's called Upland Stoke. It's thicker and easier to install than Ride Wrap IMO. That being said, this time around I paid the shop to install.

 

[CannondaleF9]

it's called Upland Stoke. It's thicker and easier to install than Ride Wrap IMO. That being said, this time around I paid the shop to install.

Good to know, I am thinking about putting a clear protection layer on mine, it's my first carbon bike and I want to make sure I don't destroy the frame right away.

 

[teethandnails]

Good to know, I am thinking about putting a clear protection layer on mine, it's my first carbon bike and I want to make sure I don't destroy the frame right away.

I think the ride wrap kit will cover more of the frame. The Upland Stoke is all universal, so it's covers about 85%, which is good enough for me.

 

[Stuckita]

Hey everyone, just spent some time reading through all these posts. Exciting watching the build up to launch. I was in need of a bike and had my eye on the element but figured I didn't stand a chance. Called a LBS a province over and found a c30 in large built up and on their floor! I've paid for it and now just need to go pick it up!

I'll update when I've got it.

 

[gfowkes]

Cosmetic refresh.

 

[Stuckita]

That looks SO good. Did that start as a c50 or c30?

 

[gfowkes]

That looks SO good. Did that start as a c50 or c30?

Thanks! It was a C30 but the only thing left is the rear shock and the dropper post.

 

[Stuckita]

Looks great. Want to do something similar with tires. I'm so excited to get mine it's built and on the floor but about 4 hrs away. I figure there is no rush since I won't be showing it ANY salt in it's life time so might as well just wait for when it's convenient - but I'm some tempted to hop in my car today haha.

 

[youwantsomepepper]

So there was some previous messages on here regarding geometry as it pertains to lower headset size, fork, etc. and the somewhat confusing pictures on the rocky site, pinkbike trail test, etc. I reached out to Rocky and they provided the following response.

"these bikes were intended to have a zero stack headset cup and a small number of bikes that were shipped with an external cup headset were done so to allow for shipping times. Without doing the external cup on some frames the shipping would have been delayed massively.
The geometry should reflect the zero stack headset installed"

So - if your bike has a 130 fork and a zero stack lower - it's geo matches the geo table on rocky site. Based on pictures posted here, some folks received bikes with larger/external lower, which Rocky explains why in the above note, but the geo of those bikes is going to be slacker than the geo table.

I personally was interested in finding where my 120 fork and 10mm lower landed me - which should match the geo table based on the note from Rocky

 

[EskimoFriend]

I'm already questioning how slack it is for racing and mine comes with the taller cup, looks like i'm ordering an new lower myself.

 

[youwantsomepepper]

I'm already questioning how slack it is for racing and mine comes with the taller cup, looks like i'm ordering an new lower myself.

Based on what Rocky said, if your bike has a 130, then it should have a zero stack cup. If you do that, and run it in full steep Ride4 setting, then the HT is 65.8.

As I mentioned, I'm running mine with a 120 and a larger lower - so still 65.8. did that so I could use a step cast 34. I'll be racing mine, but marathon/endurance events. Otherwise it's just my general use trail ripper/exploring bike for long excursions. I have a bike for XC already (Supercaliber)

 

[dischucker]

My C-50 has the 130mm fork and 10mm stack headset. I thought the BB seemed higher than the numbers suggested, as it should’ve been the same as my old bike but it feels higher and I’ve not had a single pedal strike on my local trails where I normally get 1-2.

I’ve got it in the neutral position 3 so I’m going to try it on the slack & low position.

 

[Stuckita]

Can you send a pic of what the taller cup looks like?