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#184 ·
Should get my C-50 next week, can't wait. Thinking about getting the shop to swap the front calliper for a 4-pot SLX one but keep the rear as is. Also plan to go oval chainring in a 34t. The tires are the other question mark - I've tried a Rekon WT on a 25mm ID rim and it was crap - profile was too rounded and trying to get side lugs to catch required too much lean. Maxxis say 30mm is min rim width for WT so running these on 27mm rims is questionable. I've got XR4 and Ardent race combo on my current bike but would consider keeping the Rekon on the rear and moving the XR4 to front.
 
#185 ·
dischucker said:
Should get my C-50 next week, can't wait. Thinking about getting the shop to swap the front calliper for a 4-pot SLX one but keep the rear as is. Also plan to go oval chainring in a 34t. The tires are the other question mark - I've tried a Rekon WT on a 25mm ID rim and it was crap - profile was too rounded and trying to get side lugs to catch required too much lean. Maxxis say 30mm is min rim width for WT so running these on 27mm rims is questionable. I've got XR4 and Ardent race combo on my current bike but would consider keeping the Rekon on the rear and moving the XR4 to front.
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What size are you getting? Would you mind sharing the stock weight if they build it up before switching stuff out?
 
#187 ·
dischucker said:
Just picked it up - c50 medium in orange. Weight with tubes is 12.7 kg. Will convert to tubeless on the weekend. That is stock. Edit: tubes are 350g.

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That color looks great! I really can't wait for mine to show up. It's going to be the same exact bke; size, color, spec, so it's cool to see how it'll be proportioned.

dischucker said:
Should get my C-50 next week, can't wait. Thinking about getting the shop to swap the front calliper for a 4-pot SLX one but keep the rear as is. Also plan to go oval chainring in a 34t. The tires are the other question mark - I've tried a Rekon WT on a 25mm ID rim and it was crap - profile was too rounded and trying to get side lugs to catch required too much lean. Maxxis say 30mm is min rim width for WT so running these on 27mm rims is questionable. I've got XR4 and Ardent race combo on my current bike but would consider keeping the Rekon on the rear and moving the XR4 to front.
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After the PB review I might follow suit and add a 4 piston front caliper, but I want to see which trails I gravitate towards on the bike before pre-emptively making that decision. I did want this bike to be more of my lightweight "XC-ish" bike after all. If you're riding a lot of tech, a 4 piston front brake is probably a good idea.

I'm also thinking about swapping out the wheels for 30mm internal width rims, it's just something I'm used to and more comfortable riding wider tires on. I am planning on putting an Ikon/Ardent race combo on the stock wheels, and then have a Rekon/DHF (or Dissector), and then the race tires as options depending on what trails I want to ride.
 
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#189 ·
I have a question for you... I ordered an XL element and now I'm a bit nervous, as some of the reviews indicate how big and slack the bike feels. I'm 6'1", fairly new to biking, love climbing, like technical climbs and I'm pretty cautious going downhill. Is this the right size?
 
#190 ·
Anyone else feel the pricing is a little whacky? Particularly the Carbon 70 build.

The sub $5k builds are seem reasonable and match the rest of the industry. Pinkbikers complained the bike is expensive, but I feel the Alloy 50, Carbon 30, and Carbon 50 are all competitively priced.

But the Carbon 70 build does not make sense to me. It's $2k more than the C50 build. Does Performance Elite suspension and complete XT drivetrain justify $2k increase? Maybe if it came with carbon wheels too, but it does not. Is the listed spec wrong?
 
#192 ·
Noticed a crease near the bottom bottle mount and got a scare that I’d done it accidentally but taking a closer look it appears to be part of the design. The carbon just after the bolt is flat and then it transitions to round via this crease. I think it is to avoid a bottle cage rubbing on the carbon, possibly. See photo below.

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#194 ·
Bikeventures said:
Anyone else feel the pricing is a little whacky? Particularly the Carbon 70 build.

The sub $5k builds are seem reasonable and match the rest of the industry. Pinkbikers complained the bike is expensive, but I feel the Alloy 50, Carbon 30, and Carbon 50 are all competitively priced.

But the Carbon 70 build does not make sense to me. It's $2k more than the C50 build. Does Performance Elite suspension and complete XT drivetrain justify $2k increase? Maybe if it came with carbon wheels too, but it does not. Is the listed spec wrong?
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I agree. The C70 doesn't really seem to justify it's 2k higher price. My guess is the printed spec isn't correct.
 
#195 ·
Psmithdad said:
I have a question for you... I ordered an XL element and now I'm a bit nervous, as some of the reviews indicate how big and slack the bike feels. I'm 6'1", fairly new to biking, love climbing, like technical climbs and I'm pretty cautious going downhill. Is this the right size?
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I am right at 6 feet and ordered a large Element. My Ripley is a large a maybe a touch on the small side. But for me the XL Ripley was too big. The large fit me better. Your dealer might have Larges to try on for size. What's hard is a parking lot ride won't tell you everything about fit. You will want/need a proper trail ride to determine this. Another thing that is difficult is the reach numbers don't tell the same story either. My Kona had a reach or 160 or 165 (can't remember) but felt a lot spacious than my Ripley due to the steeper Seat Tube angle.
 
#196 ·
dischucker said:
Noticed a crease near the bottom bottle mount and got a scare that I’d done it accidentally but taking a closer look it appears to be part of the design. The carbon just after the bolt is flat and then it transitions to round via this crease. I think it is to avoid a bottle cage rubbing on the carbon, possibly. See photo below.

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I imagine that is there to make bottle cages sit flush with the frame. If you dinged it that much, there would be chipped paint or other, less symmetrical damage. I can't get over how much I love that color though, I bet pictures don't do it justice.

As others in this thread posted, I'm also looking at a "mid January" arrival date, and I can't wait.

Psmithdad said:
I have a question for you... I ordered an XL element and now I'm a bit nervous, as some of the reviews indicate how big and slack the bike feels. I'm 6'1", fairly new to biking, love climbing, like technical climbs and I'm pretty cautious going downhill. Is this the right size?
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I am 5'10" or so and have always been between sizes, but my most recent bikes have been Medium frames simply due to the shorter seattubes. I have relatively short legs for my height, so while the reach of a L would fit me decently for an XC bike, I couldn't think about running a dropper longer than 125mm.

That being said, a L would probably fit you better. My dad is around your height and is comfortably riding a L Slayer, after having ridden an XL Altitude years prior. If you want a long, stretched out feel for climbing, then it should work, especially if you have long legs. Just put a short stem on it to compensate and it will handle fine, and make sure you have adequate bend in your elbows, which may require a narrower handlebar.
 
#197 ·
Bikeventures said:
Anyone else feel the pricing is a little whacky? Particularly the Carbon 70 build.

The sub $5k builds are seem reasonable and match the rest of the industry. Pinkbikers complained the bike is expensive, but I feel the Alloy 50, Carbon 30, and Carbon 50 are all competitively priced.

But the Carbon 70 build does not make sense to me. It's $2k more than the C50 build. Does Performance Elite suspension and complete XT drivetrain justify $2k increase? Maybe if it came with carbon wheels too, but it does not. Is the listed spec wrong?
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I agree. My LBS agreed and did the c90, c50, and some alloy builds. I felt the C50 presented the best value. The C70 is less than 1/2 a pound lighter, and the grip damper is a little better than the Fit4 in my opinion. Dimishing returns seem to develop past the C50 models. I understand the C90 as it's pretty damn good spec for it's price, a true dream build @ 24.5lbs.
 
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#198 ·
CannondaleF9 said:
I imagine that is there to make bottle cages sit flush with the frame. If you dinged it that much, there would be chipped paint or other, less symmetrical damage. I can't get over how much I love that color though, I bet pictures don't do it justice.

As others in this thread posted, I'm also looking at a "mid January" arrival date, and I can't wait.



I am 5'10" or so and have always been between sizes, but my most recent bikes have been Medium frames simply due to the shorter seattubes. I have relatively short legs for my height, so while the reach of a L would fit me decently for an XC bike, I couldn't think about running a dropper longer than 125mm.

That being said, a L would probably fit you better. My dad is around your height and is comfortably riding a L Slayer, after having ridden an XL Altitude years prior. If you want a long, stretched out feel for climbing, then it should work, especially if you have long legs. Just put a short stem on it to compensate and it will handle fine, and make sure you have adequate bend in your elbows, which may require a narrower handlebar.
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Thanks so much for this info, I'm new to this and so appreciate the advice. Getting my bike in Jan (fingers crossed)!
 
#200 ·
manteufel said:
Sizing question. Anyone 5 10 on a large? I am wondering if a medium would be a better fit.

Also, the rocky site specs show the stem is 50mm…is that accurate? If so I could always install anshorter stem…

Thank you.
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I am 5'10" and I am going for a medium. I have a medium Altitude and it seems to be a comfortable fit.
 
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