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11s vs. 12s chain width, compatibility

87K views 17 replies 13 participants last post by  Cheshire Chaz  
#1 ·
Hello,

I know, that 12 speed Eagle chains are narrower, than 11 speed, but I don't have any info, if only the outer plates are thinner, or also the inner gap is less.
I wonder, becuase I want to use a cranset with 11 speed chainring with an Eagle GX 12 set (casette, RD and chain).
Can anyone confirm I it will work or not?

Thank you!
 
#2 ·
Search for a thread called 'Eagle chain on 11 speed cassette'. There seem to be many riders doing it. There have been many comments about the chain being the biggest tech upgrade of Eagle. It has the same inside measurements of an 11s chain and with the changes to the design it should shift better and last longer. YMMV.
 
#5 ·
Official SRAM support says the 12s chain is not backwards compatible with 11s, but this is not the experience of people actually doing this. It seems to work.

Likewise, SRAM says not to use 11s CR with 12s SRAM, BUT I'm certain there are many 11s CR that can/will work fine w/12s. Just check the width of the older CR and research whether that might cause an issue, but I think most newer narrow/wide CR's should work.

Monitoring your chain wear/stretch and CR tooth wear will certain give excellent clues as to how well it is working.
 
#6 ·
As others have mentioned the inner width of the two chains are the same. I've been running a GX Eagle chain on an XG1150 cassette and Rival 1 11spd crankset for a while now without issues, and actually the Eagle chain smoothed things out a bit.

You don't have to do any research or monitor anything, 11spd chainrings will work perfectly.
Most aftermarket companies list their chainrings as 10-11-12spd compatible anyways.

Eagle chain on an 11spd drivetrain in action:
 
#18 ·
As others have mentioned the inner width of the two chains are the same. I've been running a GX Eagle chain on an XG1150 cassette and Rival 1 11spd crankset for a while now without issues, and actually the Eagle chain smoothed things out a bit.

You don't have to do any research or monitor anything, 11spd chainrings will work perfectly.
Most aftermarket companies list their chainrings as 10-11-12spd compatible anyways.

Eagle chain on an 11spd drivetrain in action:
I just swapped a shimano 12 spd chain for a 11 spd SRAM - all I had at the time - and it works perfectly. Apart from the chain all other parts are 12 spd. The 11 spd is obviously wider but that doesn’t seem to matter. I don’t know about the long term implication re wear on the teeth?
 
#13 ·
JMac is correct.
I need to get a new crankset but don't want to change everything to 12 speed just yet as I share wheelsets among bikes. And frankly, I have no problems with 11 speed.
I can get a great deal on a new 7100 crank and thought it may be good to future-proof with it as well.
I have seen a few posts of people running a 12 speed chainring with 11 speed chain with good results, however I'm wondering about what their long term result was.
 
#14 · (Edited)
I'm in same thought. 11 spd still good. I have new component setup ready to go on one of bikes. New bike coming with 1x12 SX so I will run that as at first then possibly upgrade shifter and then cassette when I upgrade to better wheels. The only compatibility issue I've seen recently was using new 12 speed Shimano chain on the new12 speed e13 crankset rings.
 
#16 ·
I just took my first ride on a new 7100 crank running an 11 speed KMC chain (11 speed cassette). Seems to work just fine. FWIW, I've got their 30 tooth chainring mounted.

I'll probably end up going back to an oval ring in the near future though, most likely a Wolftooth DropStop A. This is different than their Dropstop ST, which they say is specifically for HG+ chains (not that this is particularly relevant info...but whatever..).
 
#17 ·
Yes..... In

I just took my first ride on a new 7100 crank running an 11 speed KMC chain (11 speed cassette). Seems to work just fine. FWIW, I've got their 30 tooth chainring mounted.

I'll probably end up going back to an oval ring in the near future though, most likely a Wolftooth DropStop A. This is different than their Dropstop ST, which they say is specifically for HG+ chains (not that this is partipcularly relevant info...but whatever..).
Correct. Not paticuraly relevant...?