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:) I've always sucked at endurance - hence my name. But I do consider walking to be a personal fail. So for me, even though I'm almost always at the back of the pack when I ride with others, I try like hell to clean those climbs. And when I do, I give myself a pat on the back. Also, I tend to sit and spin a good cadence, so I'm not quite standing still. ;)
 
on a somewhat related note, can i just ditch the granny gear to save weight/simplify my drivetrain? i've got a 22/32/44 crankset with 11-32 9 speed cassette. i've found i almost never use it, though i haven't had many serious climbs since i started riding.

reason im asking is i've learned how everyone is going to the compact crankset/bigger cassette combo because you get similar gearing with less weight. in my limited experience i'm finding i can climb just about anything i've come across with the right combo of middle chainring and appropriate cassette cog. i think i'm on the middle chainring about 80% and about 15% on the big for descents/speed. that leaves the granny gear almost unused.

am i being dumb with this and i've just not riden enough to know i need the granny gear? or can i just dump it? cant really afford to switch to the other format right now, so i'm wondering if i should fudge it with what i have or just leave it alone.

don't mean to hijack the thread, but i dont have enough posts to start a new one...:madman:
 
Funny, but, not true. Extreme granny gear might be 22x32 (54t). If fewer teeth was correct then 22x11 (33t) would be easier. Even 32x11 (43t) has less teeth and much harder to pedal.

Still, made me chuckle regardless :thumbsup:.
As long as we're being cerebral about it, "granny gear" refers strictly to what gear you've selected in the front. Therefore, you wouldn't be adding all teeth currently in use in the drivetrain. You would only use the 22 teeth up front, which really is more than two thirds of your teeth remaining. Pretty good for an old gal if you ask me.
 
on a somewhat related note, can i just ditch the granny gear to save weight/simplify my drivetrain? i've got a 22/32/44 crankset with 11-32 9 speed cassette. i've found i almost never use it, though i haven't had many serious climbs since i started riding.

reason im asking is i've learned how everyone is going to the compact crankset/bigger cassette combo because you get similar gearing with less weight. in my limited experience i'm finding i can climb just about anything i've come across with the right combo of middle chainring and appropriate cassette cog. i think i'm on the middle chainring about 80% and about 15% on the big for descents/speed. that leaves the granny gear almost unused.

am i being dumb with this and i've just not riden enough to know i need the granny gear? or can i just dump it? cant really afford to switch to the other format right now, so i'm wondering if i should fudge it with what i have or just leave it alone.

don't mean to hijack the thread, but i dont have enough posts to start a new one...:madman:
This is a popular modification. I think it's kind of silly.

Suppose you ditch your granny ring. The only weight savings you get is the weight of the 22t chainring itself. Which isn't all that heavy. You still have a front derailleur and left shifter, and you still have a crank spider that's got support for a granny ring. If you don't swap out your front derailleur, you also still have the bottom-most step in the derailleur cage, which is there to facilitate shifting into the granny ring. Which it will, whether there's a chainring there or not.

So you don't use the granny ring. Good for you. Count your cadence. Learn to pedal 90 rpm, at least as a tool if not as a way to ride full-time, and re-evaluate whether or not you want those bottom few gear ratios. If you decide you don't want your granny and you're trying to save weight, get a double-specific crank, with only one set of bolt-holes. Give a little thought to 1x9 as well. Do you really need higher gears than 32/11? What about higher than 34/11? Etc.

I feel like people often rush into throwing parts at their bikes. It's not like someone's holding a gun to your head and making you change things. And I really don't think that granny ring is harming you by being there. So you have time to try some things.

Actually, here's an experiment. Use your limit screws to lock out your granny ring. If you don't miss it, including when you're practicing high-cadence on those long, boring fire road climbs, awesome. Get rid of the old girl.
 
This is a popular modification. I think it's kind of silly.

Suppose you ditch your granny ring. The only weight savings you get is the weight of the 22t chainring itself. Which isn't all that heavy. You still have a front derailleur and left shifter, and you still have a crank spider that's got support for a granny ring. If you don't swap out your front derailleur, you also still have the bottom-most step in the derailleur cage, which is there to facilitate shifting into the granny ring. Which it will, whether there's a chainring there or not.

So you don't use the granny ring. Good for you. Count your cadence. Learn to pedal 90 rpm, at least as a tool if not as a way to ride full-time, and re-evaluate whether or not you want those bottom few gear ratios. If you decide you don't want your granny and you're trying to save weight, get a double-specific crank, with only one set of bolt-holes. Give a little thought to 1x9 as well. Do you really need higher gears than 32/11? What about higher than 34/11? Etc.

I feel like people often rush into throwing parts at their bikes. It's not like someone's holding a gun to your head and making you change things. And I really don't think that granny ring is harming you by being there. So you have time to try some things.

Actually, here's an experiment. Use your limit screws to lock out your granny ring. If you don't miss it, including when you're practicing high-cadence on those long, boring fire road climbs, awesome. Get rid of the old girl.
great answer. thanks. i'll give it some time and gain a little more experience before i make any mods to the chainring. your right though, it does seem kind of silly to worry about the minor weight savings of removing that tiny chainring at this point.
 
Originally I was going to do a 2x9, but like you mentioned I would still have the derailluer. I ended up ditching the 44 and 22 tooth to make a 1x9. The only time I "spin" out is on big downhills. At that point I'm going plenty fast enough anyways.
 
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