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#22 ·
Only one LOL is you!

donerwin said:
i'm not sure why i don't hang out here more often, it seems like such a fun place to play!! lol
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It is as fun as when a customer is trying to get a warranty issuse resolved. The only difference is the customer is not LOL ... ;)
 
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#23 ·
cannonballtrail said:
I had 4 frames failures in 3 years and whenever I see another Lynskey owner and chat it up they tell a similar tale. Oddly Lynskey made frames for Titus, Spot, and Salsa and I have yet to ever hear of an issue.
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Lynskey seems to do an OK job of building frames, but the ones that they design themselves appear to be suspect (cracking dropouts, tubes, etc). I don't recall seeing many weld issues, just things that point to under designed frames. I suspect that Titus, Salsa, etc. put more engineering time into their frame designs that Lynskey produces.

This is one of the reasons I chose to go with a Salsa El Mar Ti vs. a Lynskey frame. I just trust that Salsa did their homework on the design and that they will back up the lifetime warranty if issues arise with the frame.
 
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AOK said:
Lynskey seems to do an OK job of building frames, but the ones that they design themselves appear to be suspect (cracking dropouts, tubes, etc). I don't recall seeing many weld issues, just things that point to under designed frames. I suspect that Titus, Salsa, etc. put more engineering time into their frame designs that Lynskey produces.

This is one of the reasons I chose to go with a Salsa El Mar Ti vs. a Lynskey frame. I just trust that Salsa did their homework on the design and that they will back up the lifetime warranty if issues arise with the frame.
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This Salsa is made by Lynskey.
 
#27 ·
It's good to know that other people have had some issues with Lynskey frames. I broke two of the pro 29's. The first time around the down tube just split about 2 inches back from the down tube / head tube weld. wtf! I'm just glad I caught it before I had a two piece bike and probably a few less teeth!

The first time I waited over 7 months for a warranty replacement. They acted as if they had never heard of one of their frames failing....?

I received the new one and within 3 rides it broke again, this time at the slider on the drive side.:mad:

I got the new one faster but it was sold off.

I think the worst part was the sh@t I took from my wife. "You mean the super titanium last forever frame broke again?"

I've had the Salsa Selma scandium since and have not had a single problem. It's much cheaper too. I want to get the new Selma Ti but am apprehensive since they build it.
 
#29 ·
Well I own and shred a medium M390 and I love it. I had a Ridgeline SL that I liked too. THis one is way better. I've had nothing but positive interactions w/Lynskey, but then again I have not needed to warrentee anything. I would hate to think that they would give me the run around on a replacement if I needed one due to failure. The 390 is a fantastic riding bicycle. If you have the money I'd say get one. You won't be sorry.
 
#30 ·
I got the run around when I ordered my Lynskey in 2009. They "were in the process of building my bike." It started to take waaay longer than promised. Waay longer. Weeks became months.

Finally they said "Sorry, but we don't make that version any more...but...we will sell you a 2010 model for the same price!!!"

Yay.

Then the process started all over again..

I rode the bike...sorta liked it, but nothing special. I couldn't figure out if Mike was cool or if I was just a pita for him.. the vibe was always different each time we spoke. He definitely made me feel like I was the only person on planet earth that had ever encountered any sort of issue with their service.

I can't believe the frames are a pound heavier, as someone stated before. Whoa!
 
#31 ·
rydbyk said:
I got the run around when I ordered my Lynskey in 2009. They "were in the process of building my bike." It started to take waaay longer than promised. Waay longer. Weeks became months.

Finally they said "Sorry, but we don't make that version any more...but...we will sell you a 2010 model for the same price!!!"

Yay.

Then the process started all over again..

I rode the bike...sorta liked it, but nothing special. I couldn't figure out if Mike was cool or if I was just a pita for him.. the vibe was always different each time we spoke. He definitely made me feel like I was the only person on planet earth that had ever encountered any sort of issue with their service.

I can't believe the frames are a pound heavier, as someone stated before. Whoa!
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My 2009 Ridgeline29 frame was about 3.2-3.3lb. are the new ones 4+lb?
 
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#33 ·
I recently got a Pro 29 VF. I did not weigh it because a couple of ounces of frame weight really does not mean that much. 24.5 Lbs built up which is not great but hell, I will ditch the waterbottle and run a camelback! Seatpost fit is extremely tight but so what, it is set where I need it. The frame took a couple of months to get here but was shipped on the day that they originally gave so can't fault them there - I knew up front that I would need to wait.

The other side of the coin is that this bike rides like nothing I have ever tried before. It handles better than my Scandium Mamasita which I bought specifically for its handling characteristics on our tight twisty trails. It climbs like a mountain goat. I am 6', 200 lbs and not really built for climbing but I flew by people on the climbs in our race this weekend. When you push down on the pedals, it is as if the frame loads up and jumps forward.

I sincerely hope that my frame does not break and if it does that Lynskey will look after me but I am not going to live in fear of it. The bike rocks and I am going to enjoyevery minute of it!!!!
 
#34 ·
OmaHaq said:
My 2009 Ridgeline29 frame was about 3.2-3.3lb. are the new ones 4+lb?
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That sounds about right. My small Pro29 SL came in @ 4.1 with sliders. The VF would be lighter.

There is a huge difference between the 2012 Pro29 and Ridgeline 29.
-2" helix down tube
-73mm BB
-44mm Head tube
-plate chainstay that increases the tire clearance
-oversized seat tube with a reducer sleeve and welded insert

This all adds weight, but it also makes for a completely different ride than the '09, and I would be willing to bet that its superior in every way. The 2010 Pro29 rides completely different than the 2012s, this is of course my opinion, but it is by my own experience, and I would take the 2012 any day of the week over the '10..but it is easy enough to say that they don't ride the same..because they just don't.

I think the welded in reducer is pretty slick. It reinforces the top tube/seat tube/seatstay junction and beefs it up to handle the leverage of the post, and it allows you to run a more comfortable post. There is a significant comfort difference between an Easton EC70 27.2 and 30.9. I have both, and the flex in a 27.2 is significant..and the way that comfort meshes and enhances the ride quality on the bike is integral to how the frame performs how comfortable it rides and how you'll feel after a ride.

All I know is that the ride of my 2012 Lynskey Pro29 SL is dialed and rides phenomenally..it is the best riding hard tail I have ever swung my leg over and I can only thank Lynskey for making such a product.

If you don't think the Lynskey frame brings any value, and their customer service sucks, go to Carver, or Habanero or pay big money for a Moots, Eriksen, IF, or Potts and wait 6mo. to a year for your frame.

If you don't like what Lynskey is building, don't buy from them. Why try to even rationalize this frame or even why they would justify making it...but keep this in mind. Not everyone wants a rough riding long travel aluminum hardtail (Paradox/Yelli Scream), nor do they want a hefty weighted one either (Transition TransAm/Kona Hanzo). So offering a premium bike to compete in the market of slack angle/long travel hardtails...they are the only one outside of custom.

People like to make 100% fact out of a 1-sided story when there is a thing called rude disgruntled customers that are impossible to work with. We've read other threads where people try to share their experience to find their opinion or side to be wrong...
 
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Discussion starter · #35 ·
So - appreciate all the input, I understand what all the broken-Lynskey-frame owners are saying. But at the same time I tend to think people are more apt to post negative experiences. It would be good to put the breakage info into context atleast too. I'm sure most people will say JRA, but ... Seriously?

I'd love to hear from more m390 owners though, response specific to that seems to be pretty positive.
 
#36 ·
I think it may still a bit early for that frame. Lynskey tends to do more "production runs" or batches in their frame builds on stock frames (special edition or not) so there is a chance that noone has taken shipment of these frames except for maybe a few prototypes floating around.
 
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#37 ·
I have a m240, and love the bike. I have ridden it on slightly more technical trails, and not had any problems. Its fitted with a 100 mm fox fork, and for hardtail isn't uber light (22lbs with super weight weenie crank and components) but it has become my favorite bike.

I hope I dont' jinx myself with this post.

I'm actually buying a r230 because I've been so pleased with the handling and build of my lynskey.
 
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#38 ·
Lets_Ride said:
I...a couple of ounces of frame weight really does not mean that much. ...but hell, I will ditch the waterbottle and run a camelback!...
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I mean, why weight a bike down with water and spend valuable energy just pushing it along, when you could not only spend the same energy pushing it along on your back, but waste even more energy by having to support that weight with your arms, shoulders, pecs, & lower back muscles?

As long as the bike is lighter, it's better right? :rolleyes: Oh wait... I'm in the 29er Bikes forum again. Explains everything. ;)
 
#39 ·
Entrenador said:
I mean, why weight a bike down with water and spend valuable energy just pushing it along, when you could not only spend the same energy pushing it along on your back, but waste even more energy by having to support that weight with your arms, shoulders, pecs, & lower back muscles?

As long as the bike is lighter, it's better right? :rolleyes: Oh wait... I'm in the 29er Bikes forum again. Explains everything. ;)
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Yeah - but if I took a big dump in the morning, it would even out and we would be back at square one. The point is that the only place such a small amount of weight is noticable is in the wheels where it is rotational. The rest is not really an issue!
 
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