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After extensive riding at all the shops in my area I am looking at getting an Hifi/superfly bike and I really want to get something that uses the new 142x12 rear standard.

However, only the Superfly 100 AL pro has this as an option seems really stratospheric in price ($3700 for aluminum) with the componentry on there (mostly XT and bontrager) is it worth the price premium over a lower-end model that I can upgrade myself? Has anybody had any luck getting just a frameset from Trek?
 
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Trek is usually pretty stingy on letting the frames go solo unless they are advertised that way. I believe only the Carbon Superfly SS were available last year. I have a friend who is a dealer and he checked and they said not possible for last year's HiFi. I ended up buying the Deluxe and swapped out everything from my old bike and selling my old bike w/ a new build kit. Love the bike.
 
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I was also looking at niners, but I really appreciate how you sit "in" the superfly instead of on top of it. Any other suggestions for low-bottom bracket 29ers that would have the 142x12 rear?
 
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Superfly 100 AL looks like a great choice XT always is the work horse of the Shimano line, very reliable, been thru two drivetrains on my HIFI Pro (26er) with XT components (replaced original XTR group when it wore out). GOOD STUFF, GONNA GO WITH THIS BIKE for technical courses in the MASS next year. Still gonna rock a 2011 RIG w/ 1x9 set up for most courses. Great enduro bike 50-100 mile rides/races. Buck up and drop some cash, if this bike is for you, otherwise drop down to the elite. Good luck!
 
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It actually looks like the dropouts in the rear can be converted to 142x12 across the superfly line, is that right? If so I may go for the lowest-specced one and do a SRAM X.0 build.
 
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i have a 2012 superfly 100 pro because i had a very minor crack in the top tube of my 2010. i can say that the 142 spacing is a nice option. forunately i had XX on my 2010 so it converted nicely to the pro frame and the industry 9 wheelset looks great as well. i had to buy a 142 rear axle for the wheels that was all. 75 dollars from i nine.
 
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If only Scott would put a nice Fox on the rear without silly handlebar mounted lockout. I wish the 135x10mm thru bolt wouldn't have been so easily overshadowed by the 142x12, but oh well. Check out the Salsa Spearfish 1. It has your beeferific axle, great build kit and looks very promising.
 
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vizsladog said:
The new scott spark has a low bb and the wider rear spacing.

There xt aluminum build bike is 2499.00
SCOTT Spark 29 Elite - Bike Racing

waayyyyyy cheaper.

cannot for the life of me figure why the s/f is sooo overpriced.

Heck one of the carbon sparks with xt is the same price as the aluminum trek.
SCOTT Spark 29 Expert - Bike Racing
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Hmm. Neither of those bikes is spec'd as well as the Trek. An XT crank and derailleur doesn't make it an "XT bike" and RS Reba < Fox. I'm not saying they're not good bikes, just that they're not side by side comparable. I also don't see any prices listed. And I'm not sure how 135 is wider than 142.
 
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That Scott isn't like the ABP either, since the axle is below the pivot and even the brake is mounted on the main pivot arm and not the arm that moves the least (looks like it suffers from brake jack; suspension stiffening under rear braking)--closer to a faux bar design, which is has characteristics of a single pivot, but isn't as refined for all the advantages that ABP or Split Pivot. Other faux bars might be better, since they at least have brake squat (suspension compresses susp) instead of brake jack. Looks like it has a lower pivot too, so might suffer more from squat issues under acceleration. I'm no designer, but it doesn't look to be cutting edge. Looks to be very shock tune dependent.
 
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i was saying for a grand less you get a nice solid thru axle rear. It has almost the same xt set up. but fox and a couple small things dont make the trek worth a grand more.

The trek is a single pivot bike and uses a tuned shock to help it not bob. it still does though.

tomato tomato
 
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Sorry, but it is not almost the same. We're talking full XT including brakes vs crank and derailleur. The SF100 AL Elite actually is spec'd almost the same, but with Fox suspension, and guess what? It's just a tiny bit over $2500. I don't see anything on the Scott specs that says "thru axle".
 
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Blunderbuss, looking at the Trek SF 100 PRO, can you give me your perspective on the upgrades between the the Pro and the Elite and their relative value? I'm also looking at a set wheels to upgrade my ride, any suggestions there? I have a set of I-9's on my hardtail race bike, GF Rig w/ 1 x 9 conversion, but would like a more cost effective solution as I-9 has priced themselves out of the market for a lot of us middle of the roaders, racin on a Budget! Already stoked for next season! Possumrider
 
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The Spark Expert model appears to come with a regular quick release on the rear wheel. Not sure if it's uprgradeable or not. The next model up, which looks like an amazing deal, states this about the rear wheel:

IDS SL Dropout System

Interchangeable and lightweight, the
IDS-SL dropout system works with
142x12mm, 135x12mm and 135x5mm QR
rear axle standards. Shred the turns more
aggressively and with enhanced control,
because the rear end is laterally stiff.

If I were you I'd check out (test ride) the Scott, Trek, Spearfish, Epic and Anthem. The Scott is likely the lightest of the bunch and the best bang for buck, in my opinion. If you can pony up the extra dough for the Pro model then you might not have to upgrade anything. (In other words, I agree with vizsladog.)
 
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