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2TurnersNotEnough said:
My only gripe is that tubeless is not that easy to do with the original rim design. That will be changed soon with ENVE's change over to UST in the next couple of months.
Can you elaborate? I've been on the lookout for news of this sort for months, but hadn't seen anything yet.
 
thefriar said:
Pull up the full thread, seems SC took care of him pretty efficiently. As far as carbon frames go, I've heard ibis is a PITA to deal with. Speshy and SC might be the only two out there I'd consider at this point.
I don't know if they have changed, but Ibis of late has a good reputation for their customer service. I had a warranty claim on a second frame that they took care of without much discussion. In less than a week I was back on the bike with a new front triangle.
I know from experience that Specialized is not that easy or quick to handle warranty claims.
 
Interesting, one of my regular crew had a rock gouge in the rear triangle of their Mojo and it was crash replacement and a 3 week wait, and this was in April/May before the heavy riding season. I never had to wait more than 3 days from ID-ing & reporting issue to LBS to back on bike with my Spesh '07 Enduro SL. That said, I hated the fact the bike was in about once a month for front or rear suspension issues and creaked like an old man o'war.

Regarding the $8k on the high end frames, thats in the Remedy 9.9/S-works Enduro/Cannondale Jekyll... none of them have carbon wheels except maybe the Enduro. That said, the top MojoHD and Nomad C kits (per the manufacturer website) are 55-66 hundy, with the SC having XTR and a 180mm fork...

I'm super curious about pricing on an RFX with the top build kit and a vivid air or ccdb... so tell turner to hustle up with getting the build kit info out there so I can make some decisions between it, the Knolly Chilcotin, the Delirium, and the MojoHD... I'm jonesing to try a carbon mtb but not with other amazing options.
 
I have a set of the 29er 32-hole Edge XC rims, set up tubeless with WTB tires at 28/29psi. Just did a really hard, rocky 93-mile mtn bike race in the Sierra Nevada on them, totally let the bike run out on downhills because I was tired and I wanted to go faster. Definitely touched the rim a few times, and heard rocks hit them. I weigh 215 naked. Beat the crap out of them, used them in three or four races now. They are super stiff, light, seem plenty strong to me. Haven't put them on my Turner yet, but I built them with the oversize 240s front hub so I can swap 9mm, 15mm, 20mm end caps. I will be putting them on, but I really want the AM rims for the Sultan. They are designed to take crazy amounts of spoke tension; 110kg - 140kg. Stans Flow is rated for 100kg, the lighter Stans rims are less.

I got them at a discount, but they were still a ton of money. And I'd do it again.

They were a pain to mount up with Snakeskin Racing Ralphs. Running them with Stans yellow 25mm tape and their custom rim strip with longer valve. They set up fine with WTB Prowler / Nanoraptor.

They've got a good crash replacement program. If I'd done the same riding with aluminum rims of the same weight, I'd need to be relacing them to new rims by now, and they would have felt hella flexy.

Weaknesses; aside from the lack of a tubeless bead on the ones I have, the major weakness is the internal spoke nipples. I would like to be able to do a re-tension on mine (they're just a little slacker, perfectly true tho) but I don't want to remove tire, sealant, strip and tape to do it.

They are made in the USA, like Turners.

Morgan
 
morganfletcher said:
Weaknesses; aside from the lack of a tubeless bead on the ones I have, the major weakness is the internal spoke nipples. I would like to be able to do a re-tension on mine (they're just a little slacker, perfectly true tho) but I don't want to remove tire, sealant, strip and tape to do it.
I'm curious to see how they achieve the UST certification. Unless it's via a rim strip (ala Bontrager), then they must be moving the nipples outside of the rim.

EDIT: just saw this. Apparently they will use tape, and looks like the nipples remain internal.

Good to hear another positive real world report. They've certainly become ubiquitous on show bikes, but from what I gather the real beauty is how they perform in the field.
 
Vrock said:
The performance could be beautifull, but if they were low profile, flat black, no fancy stickers. You know, just a "normal looking rim", nobody will spec them on show bikes.
Yep, agree, they stick out like dogs balls.....

But it seems some real world reports are rating them really highly... I am awaiting to hear back from them re some Hadley hub options, no reply though.. Interbike and all I guess..
 
Vrock said:
The performance could be beautifull, but if they were low profile, flat black, no fancy stickers. You know, just a "normal looking rim", nobody will spec them on show bikes.
They look pretty uninteresting without stickers. Why would anyone pay big money for them when they look just like Stans rims? :)



Morgan
 
I weigh about 230-240lbs and I have a 29er 240s/Aerolite/32h AM set for well over a year. They definitely do not look bling, bling now but are tough as nails. I have a very small chip in the front wheel from riding with a too low pressure which has not affected performance, and only one broken spoke. Are they worth it? Well.....I'm single. I would love to purchase another set for my more "trail" bike, but can't justify the cost...yet.
 
I want them, but the thing is - I'm not racing and my 819's are just so damn reliable and work so well as tubeless wheels. Over 100miler like Leadville or creampuff or on stage race like trans rockies, I'd like buck up for them on a thoroughbred bike like the Flux, but my tnt Spot is just an all-rounder. It would be like putting p-zero tires on my Subaru Forester...
 
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