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whybotherme said:
it is the one and only. :)
The reason I ask is, I have a post each week on my blog where I ask a pro 5 questions and she was nice enough to take the time to be apart of it. She is one of the nicest pros I have been fortunate enough to talk too. Check it out on Monday the 28th on my blog if you have the time. Its the link below.
 
danwin said:
.... she was nice enough to take the time to be apart of it. She is one of the nicest pros I have been fortunate enough to talk too.
+1
She's on this forum quite often posting responses and answering questions. I've never read a negative reply from her.
Saw her in Austin this year at the Mello Johnny Classic, she's pretty dang fast on a bike too. :D
 
I have to say that when I was a Beginner at my second race, I saw the guy that won the Expert (Cat 1) 30-39 race. I remember looking at his black Specialized Epic. It looked so fast, and I wondered to myself whether or not that brain shock gave him enough advantage to win the race. I now realize how silly that seems.


Funny how the mind works, but at the very least it got me thinking about Specialized (I rode a Salsa Caballero at the time).


Years later, he's riding a different bike and still winning.

BTW, I'm not sponsored, so my use of brands is strictly based on personal experience and NOT an association with any company. :)
 
pagey said:
Winning is important but I believe image is the best exposure.
Yup, especially if we're talking about local sponsorship (riding for shop team, etc). A big crowd of racers in "Bike Shop X" kit, all having fun, behaving, etc has got to stand out to other racers as much as (or more than) a solo winner on the podium after half the racers have started packing.
 
My opinion:

The goal of sponsership/advertising is to get people to notice and recognize "the product". If you can can create some sort of product=fast, strong, cool, whatever recognition than that is even better.

My reading of crowds of mountain bikers is that you have 2 types of consumers (gross generalization I know but I want to keep it simple).

Group 1 - The less informed/inexperienced group. They look at the guy on the podium, look at his bike and says "wow that's fast". The problem for small manufactures is that there are a lot of podiums and therefore there will always be more Epics/Anthems/Top Fuel (or their hardtail siblings). The small manufacturers bike is likely to be forgotten quickly unless it is constantly in their face.

This group is unlikely to buy from a small manufacturer.

Group 2 - The "been there, done that, bought the t shirt" crowd. These guys realize the fast guy on the podium could have won riding a 1984 chopper. But they look at the bike and think "that bike looks like it's got what I want in my next bike". They log on to the website, check the bikes specs and if they like it they try to find or buy one.

What you want is these guys to look at closely at the bike. Wether the bike stacks up is up to the engineering dept. If it does stack up then you get sales.

Group 2 is not an insignificantly small group and they will spend the time and money to find the good stuff. They also have like minded friends.


Disclamer: This may be a big load of crap. I am a fitter and machinist after all.
 
If the manufacturer doesn't maximize the exposure of their athletes, then sponsorship doesn't help much. The manufacturer has to carry the ball for getting press releases and press exposure for their racers off the podium or the course, and for tying in their ad campaign with the racers if racing is a key part of product image. You hope that the racer has the performance to be in amongst the racers who are being photographed and reported on.

But a racer isn't going to be that effective if the rest of the ad/promo campaign doesn't actually make use of that image. If you sign a major talent and they start taking your bike to the podium on larger scale events, that could be a big lever.
 
the smaller bike companies have it pretty rough IMO. i have talked to Dave Turner quite a bit (he lives close to me) and for the XC race scene it is tough for the small manufacturer to compete at the highest levels (marketing etc...)

one thing Dave is looking into is cyclocross, i think i might have to get one of his bikes for this winter. :)
 
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Flat Ark said:
Maybe this is a question that "you" should be answering for "us".(?) Have you sold more bikes since sponsoring Russell and him winning 5 races on an F4?
Well, that's hard to say. I know for a fact that I sold 1 frame as a direct result of sponsoring Russell. The other frames that have sold, I'm not sure it was because Russell is racing on the bike or if people just like the frame.
 
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whybotherme said:
the smaller bike companies have it pretty rough IMO. i have talked to Dave Turner quite a bit (he lives close to me) and for the XC race scene it is tough for the small manufacturer to compete at the highest levels (marketing etc...)

one thing Dave is looking into is cyclocross, i think i might have to get one of his bikes for this winter. :)
Just to give you a little perspective, I'm not a small manufacturer, I'm a mini manufacturer. At this point I'm the only full-time employee for Noble Bikes and I do it all. I developed my own frame and sank my own money into getting it made.

I have seen some comments about advertising, engineering departments etc. None of those exist. I'm 1 guy working with some friends trying to get this off the ground. And so I agree, it's tough to compete at the highest levels of marketing. Or compete at any level for that matter.

Not completely related, but I love Turner Bikes and what they do, so I hope you will get one of his bikes.:)
 
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