02 Litspeed Pisgah question

MK_ · Jan 17, 2005

I just picked up an 02 pisgah. It currently is setup with V-brakes, but I want to put my mono minis on it. I am wondering if the frame needs the disc brake adapter from litespeed to run discs or are the current tabs enough? If you could take a look at the link below and let me know, i will greatly appreciate it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7127169949&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

_MK

71 10-7 · Jan 19, 2005

MK_ said:
I just picked up an 02 pisgah. It currently is setup with V-brakes, but I want to put my mono minis on it. I am wondering if the frame needs the disc brake adapter from litespeed to run discs or are the current tabs enough? If you could take a look at the link below and let me know, i will greatly appreciate it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7127169949&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT

_MK

Your frame has the disk brake tabs and you don't need anything else.

MK_ · Jan 19, 2005

Cool. That's what I thought, just checking. I saw the disc brake adapter on litespeed's website and was thinking that it has to work in conjunction with what's on there. Cool. Thanks.

chrisjohn78 · Jan 20, 2005

Yes, that is the only Pisgah frame worth having, might add it's the one I own too.

It is disc ready. Too bad Litespeed tried screwing customer by not making all their bikes disc ready, but they're no longer a real bicycle company anyway.

MK_ · Jan 21, 2005

chrisjohn78 said:
Too bad Litespeed tried screwing customer by not making all their bikes disc ready, but they're no longer a real bicycle company anyway.

Do you mean because they became the Amercian Bicycle Group (of whatever that is called) and focused on profit or because their quality is not the same thing it once was?

_MK

chrisjohn78 · Jan 21, 2005

...and their bikes are manufactured in Taiwan and grossly overpriced. Look at the new Pisgah, not even a brushed finished, looks exactly like a Chinese Ti cross bike I bought from Gene Spicer.

You'll really dig that your new bike. I traded an Obed that was too large 300 bucks for a new frame in 2001, but got the 2002 instead, and so glad I did. At the time I weighed around 165 and it was the sweetest hardtail I had/have ever ridden. Now at 190, I can feel it flexing more, but still a good ride.

Bike Nazi · Jan 22, 2005

That's your opinion

chrisjohn78 said:
Yes, that is the only Pisgah frame worth having, might add it's the one I own too. It is disc ready. Too bad Litespeed tried screwing customer by not making all their bikes disc ready, but they're no longer a real bicycle company anyway.

My 99 Pisgah is designed around 80mm travel which IMO is better suited for fast XC riding/racing and I believe yours was designed around 100mm?
V brakes IMO are cheap, light, simple and effective.

Nice to see some activity on the Lite Speed board.

MK_ · Jan 23, 2005

Bike Nazi said:
I believe yours was designed around 100mm?
V brakes IMO are cheap, light, simple and effective.

V brakes are effective, I agree, however Discs are more versitile in my opinion and the lightweight ones weight less (Mono Minis or Marta SLs to name a couple). In any case, interesting to hear about bike geometry. I was planning on putting either a 80mm fork or a Talas on there, I will most likely place the talas on the bike in this case and play with the travel to see where it rides best. The Duke is definatelly not a keeper. The bike is still at my parents', awaiting shipment to me, so I am patiently, and anxiously awaiting its arrival.

_MK

MCH · Jan 23, 2005

Bike Nazi said:
My 99 Pisgah is designed around 80mm travel which IMO is better suited for fast XC riding/racing and I believe yours was designed around 100mm?
V brakes IMO are cheap, light, simple and effective.

Nice to see some activity on the Lite Speed board.

I think you will find the 99 Pisgah is designed around a 63mm travel fork and not 80 mm, As they stated in their 99/2000 catalogue that the frame is designed for a fork length from crown race to axle of 434mm which is the length of the older 63mm forks. I have had a Pisgah for 5 years now and started off with an 80mm Sid but somethink just did not fell quite right , Considering the head angle on the Litespeed is 71.5 degrees it just felt to slow in the steering. After coming across the above imfo in the back of the Litespeed catalogue of that year,I switched to a 63mm fork that was also 434mm long and the bike rode fantastic after the change. Litespeed were quite slow to update the geometry on their frames to the longer 80mm forks, They were still a bit old school even in 99/2000.

MK_ · Jan 23, 2005

MCH said:
As they stated in their 99/2000 catalogue that the frame is designed for a fork length from crown race to axle of 434mm which is the length of the older 63mm forks.

Where would I find this info for the 2002 pisgah?

_MK

MCH · Jan 23, 2005

MK_ said:
Where would I find this info for the 2002 pisgah?

_MK

I am 99% certain that the 02 Litespeeds were corrected for 80mm travel forks, However it is still important that you use a fork of this travel that isnt to long from the crown race to the axle. Something like a Sid or Manatou is around 450mm long which is an ideal length, But forks like Marzocchi with 80mm travel are around 480mm long which would slacken the headtube angle off again. So look for a fork that isnt to long overall

MK_ · Jan 23, 2005

MCH said:
So look for a fork that isnt to long overall

Good news. Thanks. I am planning on running a Fox, so it is much shorter than the Marzocchis. An interesting thing, however, is that these came from Litespeed with a 100mm duke originally.

_MK

MCH · Jan 23, 2005

MK_ said:
Good news. Thanks. I am planning on running a Fox, so it is much shorter than the Marzocchis. An interesting thing, however, is that these came from Litespeed with a 100mm duke originally.

_MK

The Duke that Litespeed were Listing in 02 in their spec was the adjustable one, Between 80mm-100. On the higher end Tanasi in 02, they spec an 80mm Sid. Both these frames had the same geometry by the way, Dont know wether yours is the adjustale Duke though

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