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boomn said:
Yeah, that just doesn't seem to add up. Those FSA cranks are also quite heavy and the seatpost is too. Not that any one of those parts means too much, but the sum of all that on a heavy steel frame doesn't seem to add up to 21lbs. My Inbred (similar weight steel frame) with a steel fork and parts that are in the same weight range is in the upper 25lb range
Ok, I just weighed myself on my Tanita scale and then weighed myself holding the bike and there was a difference of 24.2 pounds. I guess that my fish scale which I originally used is out of calibration. I thought that was too easy. All I changed was the stock wheels for Stan's ZTR 355's w/ZTR hubs, the Saddle and I figure I gained some weight back with the bar ends. Oh well, gives me something to shoot for.
 
Flat Ark said:
Ok, I just weighed myself on my Tanita scale and then weighed myself holding the bike and there was a difference of 24.2 pounds. I guess that my fish scale which I originally used is out of calibration.
No doubt the fish scale is calibrated for story telling :)
 
G14it said:
I got a set of 355's laced to pro 2's with revos. Im 170ish and ride some techy trails, they are holding up great! no dents or wobbles after a year of riding.
Holy Crap that's good news for me.. those are the thinnest spokes I've ever saw... so I have been worried.

Thanks!
 
Hey, that gives me an idea. If I weigh my steel Haro Werx SS on my Tanita body fat scale, I can find out how much fat is loading it up. Then I know how much weight I can expect it to lose while riding! Unfortunately, it has 26er wheels, so I don't benefit from the 29er bouyancy effect.
 
Why do you run so big rigid forks on your Bontragers. You dont need suspension corrected rigid forks on them. Just looks ugly.

But you get 1 point for not going 29'ier roue!
 
I give you kudos because at least you have a normal fork.

What is it with the bike world today... I have been away a couple of years.

Are 29" wheels and tall rigid forks the new trend? If it is, that is one of the most ugly trends I have ever seen. Why not get a normal frame then and mount an old Mountain LX long cage derailleur as a chainstretcher if looks dont count instead of dealing out major cashish for custom frames looking weird?
 
erkan said:
I give you kudos because at least you have a normal fork.

What is it with the bike world today... I have been away a couple of years.

Are 29" wheels and tall rigid forks the new trend? If it is, that is one of the most ugly trends I have ever seen. Why not get a normal frame then and mount an old Mountain LX long cage derailleur as a chainstretcher if looks dont count instead of dealing out major cashish for custom frames looking weird?
As I previously posted, I had Paul at Rocklobster make me a rigid fork for an old Bonty Race Lite. You seem to assume that none of the Bontrager frames geometry was modified for front suspension. This is incorrect. Most early Race Lite's where sold sans a fork and you had a choice of a frame made for a suspended fork or not. Granted the shocks back then where in the 63-80mm range. The Race Light I ended up with, had an old Manitou EFC shock installed, so Paul made the fork 430mm (c to a); suspended corrected. This was a few mm long, but he took into account the steep seat tube of Bontragers, that caused one to overweight the front end. Bontys were known for their "quick steering", but their downhill manners were down right scary. I also own a 1998 Privateer with the same geometry (you can put them side by side). The original shock was a 63mm Judy with Keith's steeper crown . I replaced the shock with a Marzzochi Super Fly (80mm) and the bike steering really settled down and became my main ride until I had a Rocklobster made for me. Regardless, nothing is lost on suspension correction, even if it seems like overkill; especially on Bonty's, which was one of the first bikes to have suspension geometry. Might have something to do with Keith helping Paul Turner by designing the Rock Shox crown.
 
with mine, i think the fork looks overly long cos the frame's so small, the walt fork replaces a 1998 SID with an axle to crown of 430mm, the walt fork is 10mm shorter to take into account the monster sag on the 63mm travel fork. work's just great.
of course it all depends how old your Bontrager is...pre 94 go for a shorter fork.
 
very sweet bike bonty, are those stock aesthetics on that fork except for a-t-c? or did you help on that. need to get one myself.

on a different note did you give up on the Racer X speen setup? i'm going to give the new speen version a try.
 
Not 100% sure what you mean stock aesthetics? I gave Walt axle to crown and offset, i believe he made it his normal way, which is with the legs set forward off the crown. It rides brilliantly and it's pretty light into the bargain.

as for front mechs, (this is a single speed forum), i have switched to a Campag record carbon and rotated the cable arm so it works as a top pull. Took some setting up, but now works great :thumbsup:
 
95bonty said:
Not 100% sure what you mean stock aesthetics? I gave Walt axle to crown and offset, i believe he made it his normal way, which is with the legs set forward off the crown. It rides brilliantly and it's pretty light into the bargain.
the legs set forward off the crown part is what I wanted to know. love the tapered legs and the tiny dropouts :cool:
 
erkan said:
I give you kudos because at least you have a normal fork.

What is it with the bike world today... I have been away a couple of years.

Are 29" wheels and tall rigid forks the new trend? If it is, that is one of the most ugly trends I have ever seen. Why not get a normal frame then and mount an old Mountain LX long cage derailleur as a chainstretcher if looks dont count instead of dealing out major cashish for custom frames looking weird?
every decade has its own definition of good looks;)
 
boomn said:
Yeah, that just doesn't seem to add up. Those FSA cranks are also quite heavy and the seatpost is too. Not that any one of those parts means too much, but the sum of all that on a heavy steel frame doesn't seem to add up to 21lbs. My Inbred (similar weight steel frame) with a steel fork and parts that are in the same weight range is in the upper 25lb range
That's a Monocog Flight - so the frame will be lighter than a regular Monocog, but 21 pounds seems pretty damned light. Unless the wheels are different from stock. I see a heavy saddle laying on the couch - so he's got that going for him in terms of weight savings. ;)
 
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