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I recently tore apart my 2001 Trek 8000 17.5" and built up my new small Moto Rapido from the same components. Just picking it up it seems to feel heavier than the Trek which should not be. Of course, the only bike I've been picking up for a few months is my Orbea road bike which probably weighs about 17 pounds so my perception may be altered.

I had the Salsa frame weighed at the shop when I got it. It was 1550g or 3.4 pounds. I haven't weighed the Trek but from old reviews it is supposedly over 4 pounds. I'll take it in and get it weighed one of these days.

I had the completed Salsa weighed at a shop yesterday and it was a little under 26 pounds which seems heavy for a hardtail.

So where's all the weight coming from? Here are my components.

2006 Reba Team fork
Easton EC70 carbon handlebar
Avid Elixir CR brakes
Deore LX hollowtech II crankset (some weight here)
Mavic XM819 disc rims (UST) laced to XT hubs
WTB Mutano Raptor 2.24" foldable non-tubeless being run tubeless with Stan's
Thomson Elite seatpost
WTB Speed V saddle (some weight here)
XT front der, XT Shadow rear der, XT shifters, XT cassette, XT BB
inner tube wrapped around right chainstay
Cane Creek S8 headset

The steerer is currently very long because I'm still fiddling with fit. The stem is a 105mm low-mid quality Bontrager that will eventually get replaced with a better stem when I determine the best length for me.

So aside from the tires, crankset and saddle, there's nothing remarkably heavy on this bike.

So what say you? Is 26 pounds normal for this bike? Am I just a weenie?
 
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I'm bored sitting at home getting over a cold so I decided to dig up the advertised weights on everything that was on my bike at the time of weighing. Some are estimates but those are small items (ie: cables & housings). If nothing else this gives me a reference to see where a change in componentry would make a difference. I wish I felt better...then I could just get out and ride the damn thing!

Component Weight
2006 Reba Team fork 1565
Moto Rapido Frame 1550
WTB Mutano Raptor 2.24" foldable non-tubeless 1130
Mavic XM819 disc rims (UST) 950
Deore LX hollowtech II crankset 907
Avid Elixir CR brakes 770
XT Hubs 549
WTB Speed V saddle 400
DT Swiss Comp 2/1.8 spokes 382
XT shifters 300
chain 297
Eggbeater Chrome Pedals 294
Thomson Elite seatpost 289
XT cassette 250
XT Shadow rear der 239
cables/housings 200
Bontrager SSR Stem 194
XT front der 183
pump 136
Easton EC70 carbon handlebar 125
Cane Creek S8 headset 112
Oury grips 100
Ayup light 58
stans 57
bottle cage 57
computer 40

Total: 11134 or 24.546 pounds

I'm pretty sure the weight given for the Reba is dry weight but there's only 30cc total added to it when full.
 
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I guess the easiest (and cheapest) things to change that might have a significant impact would be the tires and the saddle. Not to mention the Oury grips.

I should mention that the scale was a mechanical dial type. Not an electronic scale.
 
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keep the grips- I love my oury lock-ons on both my mountain bikes

buy better wheelset or do nothing imo?

you've got a "balanced" build more or less as it is- you will nickel and dime yourself to the poor house to only lose 3 lbs unless your very good as finding good used parts and selling yours.

if you keep it as is and ride hard you'll break stuff and can upgrade that way- I've already gone to 990 cassette and hollow pin chain this year that way.
 
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2silent said:
keep the grips- I love my oury lock-ons on both my mountain bikes

buy better wheelset or do nothing imo?

you've got a "balanced" build more or less as it is- you will nickel and dime yourself to the poor house to only lose 3 lbs unless your very good as finding good used parts and selling yours.

if you keep it as is and ride hard you'll break stuff and can upgrade that way- I've already gone to 990 cassette and hollow pin chain this year that way.
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ugh...I thought my wheels were pretty decent for the money. I just bought them in the spring and only have a few rides on them. :cryin:

The reason I'm thinking of losing the Oury's is because they are so thick that by the time I put on gloves they really pry my hands open. They also take up precious finger room behind my brake levers. Besides, they are damn heavy and being on the ends of the bars may have a noticeable impact on how the steering feels. Just a thought. Oh...they aren't lock-ons...just regular slip-on grips. I worried a little about using lock-ons on the carbon bar.

You are right, though, about the cost of lightness. There's this woman in my house who seems to think there are more important things to spend money on than blingy carbon fiber and titanium bits for my bikes. I'm not obsessed by bike weight...it's just that 26 pounds was a lot heavier than I expected for a bare hard tail based on what I would consider a pretty light frame.

On a semi-unrelated note...what do you guys use for a chainstay protector on these very uniquely formed stays? The inner tube is a workable low-tech/ghetto solution but I'm sure there's something better.
 
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I didn't mean to imply they weren't 'good' wheels, just that u could gain more there than anywhere and have something u can use later if u wanted. I use packing tape on my chainstay- but don't take advice from me... I've had mine for 4 months and the frame alone probably couldn't be sold on ebay due to the scratches etc. throughout. It has been my only mountain bike most of the summer.
 
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2silent said:
I didn't mean to imply they weren't 'good' wheels, just that u could gain more there than anywhere and have something u can use later if u wanted. I use packing tape on my chainstay- but don't take advice from me... I've had mine for 4 months and the frame alone probably couldn't be sold on ebay due to the scratches etc. throughout. It has been my only mountain bike most of the summer.
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Hey...no shame in that. At least yours gets used as it should. I feel really bad that I haven't been in the woods all summer. I've been riding road and doing centuries. I'm kinda screwed now because if I spend any more time on the bike instead of attending to my husbandly duties around the house, my wife is going to pitch a fit.

Thanks for the feedback y'all.
 
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Tweezak said:
On a semi-unrelated note...what do you guys use for a chainstay protector on these very uniquely formed stays? The inner tube is a workable low-tech/ghetto solution but I'm sure there's something better.
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I'm using the Lizard Skins Super Jumbo one. First I had the Jumbo one but it was too small to get on there without working up a major sweat.
 
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