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That's the urban tire....what about the dirt version....a better choice! Besides....picking bad tires won't send you to hell, rejection of the Savior will or living a perfect, sinless life. Let's see what your buddies say about your riding.....do you have perfect line down every downhill...or clean every rock garden....not gone off the trail, or not stop on that gruelling climb or stop and walk that section of Bennet Gap?? EEEhhhhh????It's NOT about being a holy roller, it's about being forgiven! REALLY EASY and simple!
 
I've always that it was ironic that "anti-christian" bands still sing about Christ.

Strange....you would think they would just avoid talking about him. Yet, by including him in their lyrics, they're acknowledging that he still has an influence 2,000 years later.

That's pretty funny in my book.
 
Yeah, considering the atrocities being committed and having been committed in the past in his name, or such things as a Church sponsored Holocaust during WWII (and if anyone wants to call me on it, I will post pictures of the memorial plaques of shame many Churches in Germany have bolted to their entrances with the exact number of Jews they gave up to the Nazis for labor and death). So when groups speak of something such as religion that was supposed to do so much good, but did bad, it's not about God or Christ, they're singing about what man has done, which is religion. No one cares if someone has a belief and a relationship with God. The problem comes with religion and "rep-pre-sent'n" and forcing it upon people and not arguing it.

But again, a house with a pentagram on it is where I'd rather be.
 
Jerk_Chicken said:
Yeah, considering the atrocities being committed and having been committed in the past in his name, or such things as a Church sponsored Holocaust during WWII (and if anyone wants to call me on it, I will post pictures of the memorial plaques of shame many Churches in Germany have bolted to their entrances with the exact number of Jews they gave up to the Nazis for labor and death). So when groups speak of something such as religion that was supposed to do so much good, but did bad, it's not about God or Christ, they're singing about what man has done, which is religion. No one cares if someone has a belief and a relationship with God. The problem comes with religion and "rep-pre-sent'n" and forcing it upon people and not arguing it.

But again, a house with a pentagram on it is where I'd rather be.
don't forget the Inquisition..........

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Uh - don't get God mixed up with mankind's actions. As I said earlier.....

"There's nothing wrong with God.....
It's religion I gotta problem with. Mankind always seems to screw it up."

You're looking at mankind's phucked up interpretation of things....
 
motoenth said:
Uh - don't get God mixed up with mankind's actions. As I said earlier.....

"There's nothing wrong with God.....
It's religion I gotta problem with. Mankind always seems to screw it up."

You're looking at mankind's phucked up interpretation of things....
My post references that.
 
so what does this all have to do with some Christians inviting other people on a mt bike ride?I've been on a few B.O.M.B. rides and had a really good time.I'm not sure where all of the hate and debate is about?I would think if you had all of the answers you would go on the ride and explain to everyone the truth.When your invited to a wedding in a Christian Church,do you rip on the bride and groom?how about going on a ride and then make a judgment?
 
Don't judge God by man's action.....judge people by God....in fact we are called to judge ourselves and not others. Man has always twisted the word of God to fit their own comfort level or power trips and have gone in their own directions...or been blinded and deceived by the one who wants to destroy you and your eternity. Forever is a really really long time. If you stopped on the trail and reached down and pinched a little dirt and sifted it down to one grain and held it up to the sky. That would be a pale comparison of time as your life being the grain of sand and the rest of the earth and the sky and the cosmos beyond being eternity. What you do in this life determines where you spend that eternity. If you fool yourself into thinking that hell is not that bad or all of your friends will be there and you'll be hangin' out drinking and playing cards then that's really sad. If you think of what the worst, most painful way to die is, which is probably burning to death, and take that pain and anguish, and instead of burning in utter pain and dying, you just burn and burn and burn, forever. Sorry my brother, but THAT is a choice I'll not take or make. God is perfect and we and not. HIS ways are higher than ours. We fall short of his mark and have no way to keep all of the 10 commandments each and every day. That is why the Father gave his son as a perfect sacrifice to pay the price for my sins and yours, everybody's. Evangelizing is not cramming our beliefs down someone's throat, although a lot of good or well meaning Christians certainly lack the skills to present the Gospel correctly. Hipocracy is part of the mix, in that the imperfect are trying to "sell" the perfect. None of us deserve heaven but are offered it through the free gift of the sacrifice of God's own son. God uses the imperfect to give his message because that's what he wants and that's the way he will get it done. He could do it himself, but want's our participation, that's what we are called to do.

You are racing down Kitsuma on your fastest run ever, sun shining through the trees and there's a guy standing on the side of the trail walking his bike back up the trail who screams for you to stop because the next turn is washed out and caved in and you'll go off the side of the trail and get hurt of severely injured or even possibly die. Do you blow him off and blaze through not caring that's he's some lunatic, or slow down and check it out? Do you scream around a BRIDGE OUT sign knowing that the bridge was OK last time you drove through? If you saw a little kid with a box of rat poison, do you take it away from him even though you don't know him and he's not your responsibility or do you do the right thing?

If you don't believe or trust or care....take 2 seconds to ask God to show you whom he is.
 
mtb777 said:
Don't judge God by man's action.....judge people by God....in fact we are called to judge ourselves and not others. Man has always twisted the word of God to fit their own comfort level or power trips and have gone in their own directions...or been blinded and deceived by the one who wants to destroy you and your eternity. Forever is a really really long time. If you stopped on the trail and reached down and pinched a little dirt and sifted it down to one grain and held it up to the sky. That would be a pale comparison of time as your life being the grain of sand and the rest of the earth and the sky and the cosmos beyond being eternity. What you do in this life determines where you spend that eternity. If you fool yourself into thinking that hell is not that bad or all of your friends will be there and you'll be hangin' out drinking and playing cards then that's really sad. If you think of what the worst, most painful way to die is, which is probably burning to death, and take that pain and anguish, and instead of burning in utter pain and dying, you just burn and burn and burn, forever. Sorry my brother, but THAT is a choice I'll not take or make. God is perfect and we and not. HIS ways are higher than ours. We fall short of his mark and have no way to keep all of the 10 commandments each and every day. That is why the Father gave his son as a perfect sacrifice to pay the price for my sins and yours, everybody's. Evangelizing is not cramming our beliefs down someone's throat, although a lot of good or well meaning Christians certainly lack the skills to present the Gospel correctly. Hipocracy is part of the mix, in that the imperfect are trying to "sell" the perfect. None of us deserve heaven but are offered it through the free gift of the sacrifice of God's own son. God uses the imperfect to give his message because that's what he wants and that's the way he will get it done. He could do it himself, but want's our participation, that's what we are called to do.

You are racing down Kitsuma on your fastest run ever, sun shining through the trees and there's a guy standing on the side of the trail walking his bike back up the trail who screams for you to stop because the next turn is washed out and caved in and you'll go off the side of the trail and get hurt of severely injured or even possibly die. Do you blow him off and blaze through not caring that's he's some lunatic, or slow down and check it out? Do you scream around a BRIDGE OUT sign knowing that the bridge was OK last time you drove through? If you saw a little kid with a box of rat poison, do you take it away from him even though you don't know him and he's not your responsibility or do you do the right thing?

If you don't believe or trust or care....take 2 seconds to ask God to show you whom he is.
Yet this is exactly what this whole ridiculous post is. It was only a matter of time before it turned into what it was at the core.
 
mtb777 said:
What you do in this life determines where you spend that eternity.
So are you Methodist or Buddhist??

mtb777 said:
If you fool yourself into thinking that hell is not that bad or all of your friends will be there and you'll be hangin' out drinking and playing cards then that's really sad. If you think of what the worst, most painful way to die is, which is probably burning to death, and take that pain and anguish, and instead of burning in utter pain and dying, you just burn and burn and burn, forever.
"....hell is the invention of Roman Catholicism; and surprisingly, most, if not all, of our popular concepts of hell can be found in the writings of Roman Catholic writers like the Italian poet Dante Alighieri (1265-1321), author of Dante's Inferno. The English poet John Milton (1608-1674), author of Paradise Lost, set forth the same concepts in a fashion highly acceptable to the Roman Catholic faith. Yet none of our concepts of hell can be found in the teaching of Jesus Christ!"

From http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/jesusteachingonhell.html

There ya' go using man's interpretation again....... :nono:
 
motoenth said:
So are you Methodist or Buddhist??

"....hell is the invention of Roman Catholicism; and surprisingly, most, if not all, of our popular concepts of hell can be found in the writings of Roman Catholic writers like the Italian poet Dante Alighieri (1265-1321), author of Dante's Inferno. The English poet John Milton (1608-1674), author of Paradise Lost, set forth the same concepts in a fashion highly acceptable to the Roman Catholic faith. Yet none of our concepts of hell can be found in the teaching of Jesus Christ!"

From http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/jesusteachingonhell.html

There ya' go using man's interpretation again....... :nono:
http://www.ovrlnd.com/Cults/poprejectshell.html

JP2 was a pretty rational thinker in the catholic theology. Even though I don't believe, I did respect him.

edit: the first paragraph is the only one that really matters.
 
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motoenth said:
So are you Methodist or Buddhist??

"....hell is the invention of Roman Catholicism; and surprisingly, most, if not all, of our popular concepts of hell can be found in the writings of Roman Catholic writers like the Italian poet Dante Alighieri (1265-1321), author of Dante's Inferno. The English poet John Milton (1608-1674), author of Paradise Lost, set forth the same concepts in a fashion highly acceptable to the Roman Catholic faith. Yet none of our concepts of hell can be found in the teaching of Jesus Christ!"

From http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/jesusteachingonhell.html

There ya' go using man's interpretation again....... :nono:
Moto, I like that you have looked into the teachings of Jesus before making blanket statements about the bible.However if you read Luke chapter 16 verse 19-31 I think you will find that Jesus did teach about hell and it doesn't sound like a fun place.
God Speed,
 
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