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Just got back from Interbike and an integrated 2 week vacation with the wife. I was really looking forward to the Demo Days part of Interbike. However, I learned something about myself and bike riding in general. I'd never given any thought about riding someone else's bike(s) in unfamiliar terrain. I've always either jumped on someone else's bike in familiar terrain or my own bikes in unfamiliar terrain--but never both situations at the same time. Even when I've swapped bikes with a friend, it's never been for very long and usually not on the very worst parts of the trail. I just realized why.

I have always set up my brakes moto-style because of my dirt motorcycle background--front brake, right lever. Obviously every bike at Demo Days was set up in standard fashion. At the shop, working on and riding a customer's bike isn't a big deal, and you don't wind up doing a whole lot of technical stuff anyway. The Bootleg Canyon trail network was awesome, and the shuttle service deal was great. However, I noticed that I didn't have near the confidence on both a strange bike on a strange and challenging trail. I was on a Trek Session 77 for the first ride, and I could tell it was an impressive bike, but I felt like a rusty old man. Speaking of old man, I noticed on the numerous shuttles up the hill in the back of the stakebed truck that there were only young faces in the 20's and 30's present. Surely there were other geezers somewhere doing the shuttle at times, but I never bumped into any. I stepped around or over a few places that I know I wouldn't normally dismount on, but the strange bikes, unfamiliar terrain, and interesting exposure in spots caused me to chicken out more than normal.

One bike I rode, however, really did give me a dose of confidence despite the conventional brake setup and Crank Bros. Mallet pedals--I was wearing SPD shoe setup and Santa Cruz had no SPDs available. In spite of this, the VP Free and it's 888 fork were awesome. Even pedaling up steep pitchups was quite doable for an old fart in the wrong shoes on a relatively heavy bike. The further I went, the faster I went. The bike was forgiving in numerous rocky sections of the trail. Even when I screwed up a little, I could get the bike back without a lot of drama. In fact picking a line wasn't near as important as it had been on the other bikes I rode there. Honestly, this is no SC add on my part--the bike was just an awesome ride.

Being on vacation, I had brought one of my own bikes, so I decided to see just how bad I really was. At the end of the second day, I took my bike up the shuttle to get a comparison of the trail and the other bikes with one I knew how to ride. Sure enough, with proper brake setup, a personally tuned suspension, the right pedals, and two days familiarity with some of the trails, I felt a lot more at home bombing down and over some of the gnarlier sections on my Bullit. Up to that moment, however, I was seriously spooked. My hat's off to the many riders I saw grabbing these unfamiliar bikes and pulling some moves like they'd been riding them for months. I don't see how many of them do it with that kind of confidence. I'd like to have ridden that VP Free another time or two, because that thing was quite easy to get a handle on. All in all, however, there's something to be said for a familiar bike with brakes, suspension, tires, and setup that feel like an old comfortable pair of shoes.
 
Congrats on surviving Bootleg.

Don't consider yourself a wussy. The trails at Bootleg can be intimidating. I remember my first experience at Bootleg in spring 2000. When we arrived at the top of the mountain we wondered what kind of wacko would build these trails. Having experience in dirt/rock trails (we come from Phoenix, land of rocks/dirt/spiny things) we rode the trails and wondered at the end of our first run if we should pack up and go home. Deciding it was too much fun to leave we continued to ride. That was four and a half years ago and the trails at Bootleg have just gotten gnarlier and more intense(hats off to Brent Thompson :cool: ). I have not missed a race there since our first experience in 2000(I didn't race the third race in 2003 as I was run over by a car on my motorcycle the night before but I still showed up :rolleyes: ) I still don't ride every part of every trail due to a lack of insurance and strong self preservation instinct. I am 35 and hope to be riding at Bootleg until they have to push my decrepit ass up the hill :D (maybe the chairlift will be there then?)
 
you should've stopped by the Iron Horse booth, we were constantly swapping brakes around for the Aussies and Brits who were trying out our bikes. Plus Crank Bros was demoing shoes and pedals so you actually could've clipped in. Hope you had fun, had a blast even though I didn't get to ride... next year.
 
dante said:
you should've stopped by the Iron Horse booth, we were constantly swapping brakes around for the Aussies and Brits who were trying out our bikes. Plus Crank Bros was demoing shoes and pedals so you actually could've clipped in. Hope you had fun, had a blast even though I didn't get to ride... next year.
hey dante,

IH isn't going to offer the HT as a frame only. If not what is the spec on it?
 
offtheedge said:
hey dante,

IH isn't going to offer the HT as a frame only. If not what is the spec on it?
specs are here http://www.farkin.net/page.php?p=ed2327 (second half of the page), but it's 3 models, top model actually has the Stance Flow (not Blunt) 150/120mm adjustable, E.13 DRS, X.7 shifter/der, HFX-9s w/ 8" rotors, and Hussefelt cranks. Retail ~$1500.

Coolest thing about it is the fork has RTWD (rapid travel wind down) which allows you to adjust the travel/height without changing the spring rate. 150 for FR/XC, 120 for street, etc. Definitely better than their older travel adjust, which lowered the travel but stiffened up the compression.

Hope this helps. Frame only I'd say Evil would definitely be the best bet. They've got a ton of some stuff out for 2005 as well, the DOC and Sovereign, so it's always good to give them a plug. :cool: Let me clarify. Frame only Evil would be the best bet for now. ;)
 
dante said:
specs are here http://www.farkin.net/page.php?p=ed2327 (second half of the page), but it's 3 models, top model actually has the Stance Flow (not Blunt) 150/120mm adjustable, E.13 DRS, X.7 shifter/der, HFX-9s w/ 8" rotors, and Hussefelt cranks. Retail ~$1500.

Coolest thing about it is the fork has RTWD (rapid travel wind down) which allows you to adjust the travel/height without changing the spring rate. 150 for FR/XC, 120 for street, etc. Definitely better than their older travel adjust, which lowered the travel but stiffened up the compression.

Hope this helps. Frame only I'd say Evil would definitely be the best bet. They've got a ton of some stuff out for 2005 as well, the DOC and Sovereign, so it's always good to give them a plug. :cool: Let me clarify. Frame only Evil would be the best bet for now. ;)
Hey Dante does the IronHorse yakuza come frame only?
 
Azonic2453 said:
Hey Dante does the IronHorse yakuza come frame only?
none of the Yakuza's come frame only. BTW, Yakuza is the name for the entire line of bikes, the 3 HTs, the 2 single-pivot FR bikes and the Kumicho, the single pivot DH bike. Hope this helps.
 
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