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hi folks,

a few of us over here in Germany received their 20th Anniversary Zaskar frames with a funny sticker on the box, it says "Made in Taiwan".
I have contacted GT Germany, but they play, as usual, hide and seek, no reply... zero reaction
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Here some pics:

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Must say, I don't like this at all. Anyone else having such stickers on the box? Just recalling that the frame has been aggressively marketed as the real thing, made in the US same as the original Zaskar back then....

Any info is welcome
Nick
 
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Look at these pictures of a new Zaskar re-issue (from the German GT-Forum, too). The headtube isn´t well milled, the decals aren´t well fit and there are some scratches of a quick release skewer. I hope the other frames are in a better condition.
 

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I have seen pictures of the new reissue Zaskar which come with a certificate with build number and date,welding rod type and a signature of whom at SAPA in Portland,Oregon welded the frame.
Your frame didn't came with something like that?
 
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oldman said:
no, some frames have been delivered w/o certificates. GT Germany seems to ship the certificates separately....
somehow it looks as if these don't come from SAPA.....
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My Turner is made at SAPA and the build quality is by far superior to what can be seen in that pictures...

Need to find that pictures I talked about,if I only remember where?

BTW,is there a hind of the used material like Aluminium 6061 or 7005,7020 or something like that?
 
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The marks on that frame make me think it was used for displays, rather than being assembled, such as being a preproduction show, or an early run example to go to shows or display at stores.

NBD on the stickers, but it they apply them, I'd want them to at least be straight. On the Taiwan thing, who knows. Perhaps the De folks and the USA customers need to compare serial numbers to see what can reveal some differences.

Doesn't Germany have strict importation and consumer rights laws? If GT De isn't getting back to you, customs or the consumer groups will certainly force them to. Mislabeling origin for customs is a serious crime in any country, as it can allow for variances in import duty.
 
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I would go right to the top and send the President of Cannondale Sports Group a email asking whats up. Send it to jfrehner(at)cannondalegroup.com . Remember that GT and Cannondale merged the other day. Let us know what he says.
 
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the real thing

on preivious posts made earlier you can see the technician at SAPA making the jig for the frame....The frames are finished, decaled, and packaged in Taiwan and by law whatever leaves that country for export into other countries must have the label of origin on it.....there is a label on the frame that states made in the USA......and I will say that my original Santa Ana Zaskar was not 100%perfect either.....
 
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dirtstar59 said:
..I am sure anyone who is not satisfied can certainly get a frame that is to thier satisfaction....
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Yes, a cheaper frame "made in Tawain" seems to be better produced as a frame from the USA today. :D In the past "made in USA" was a garantee for quality, but today???
 
#16 ·
Lobo, unfortunately you are correct, "USA made" is no guarantee of quality, as many Ellsworth (made by SAPA) owners can attest, .....I can say that I have inquired about the trustworthiness of any Re-Issue that has a headtube that has been machined off axis and according to GT Customer Service they pass all tests required to ship to US or EU customers so there is no safety issue with these frames...
 
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dirtstar59 said:
if the ream on the headtube is off that is not poor engineering, that is poor machining by SAPA....I am sure anyone who is not satisfied can certainly get a frame that is to thier satisfaction....
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I doubt the possibility to get another frame, as this is a limited production...

kr
 
#19 ·
its a consumers perogative to get satisfaction for thier money....I would also say that its also not a deal breaker....I am sure if someone looked at every frame made by any mfg that they could likely find some defect to warrant a return....

obviously this guy is pretty happy with his
 

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#20 ·
oldman said:
hi folks,

a few of us over here in Germany received their 20th Anniversary Zaskar frames with a funny sticker on the box, it says "Made in Taiwan".
I have contacted GT Germany, but they play, as usual, hide and seek, no reply... zero reaction
.
Here some pics:

Image


Image


Must say, I don't like this at all. Anyone else having such stickers on the box? Just recalling that the frame has been aggressively marketed as the real thing, made in the US same as the original Zaskar back then....

Any info is welcome
Nick
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I thought the frame comes with three sets of decals.....to me that means none are on it out of the box and you choose and put on the color you want...isn't that correct. (Still wish they were die cuts, I'm having some reproduced for mine) The bike pictured in your post Lobo looks to have been on display or built up and I for one can attest that display and sample bikes and frames are not always perfect. Looks to me as though the machining is OK inside the head tube but it appears that the edge has been knocked against something a few times. Obviously it's had a wheel clamped into it too.
 
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