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Anyone use their Camelback while skiing? I'm heading to altitude for the first time and have been advised to constantly drink water. Might even bring my Hammer Perpetuem and gels.
 
If it's cold enough, the hose will freeze up if you leave it outside the pack. And that neoprene sleeve that they sell to prevent freezing doesn't really work that well in really cold temperatures. Better to just keep the hose inside your pack and drink on the lifts, or carry water bottles. Drink plenty of water in the morning and drink plenty of beer in the afternoon, and you'll be fine.

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A friend of mine skis with his camelback. He's got one of the very minimalist models. He wears it under his parka, and clips the tube to the harness with the nozzle near his shoulder. That takes care of the freezing issue, and he can grab a sip on the chairlift rides.

The main thing on high altitude hydration is to not start off dehydrated, and go easy on salt caffeine, and alcohol. Take it easy the first 24 hours or so at altitude. If you can get to the mountains in the afternoon or evening and get a good night's sleep, you are well on the way.
 
I bought a Camelbak Hellion for winter riding (no longer a winter pack and replaced by the Menace). The tube runs inside the strap to keep it insulated. The only problem I've had with it was trying to unzip the strap wearing big gloves. The bag itself is designed for Skiers and Snow Boarders, and can hold a Set of ski's with poles, or a snowboard. It is a pretty big bag so if your looking for something smaller I think they also make a smaller model. I know Dakine also makes a few Bags with the tube running inside the shoulder strap around the same price.
 
I used my Camelbak during a ski trip to Utah two years ago. I just wore it under my ski jacket and kept the tube inside the jacket as well, so I never had a problem with freezing. Just like in biking, it is very important to stay hydrated while skiing. It is just hard to tell how much you are sweating when it is cold out. Wearing a camelbak prevented us from having to stop, take the skis off, and go in the lodge to get a drink.
 
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I never have a problem with the hose freezing and I usually ride all winter in below freezing temps. Just blow back into the bladder and it keeps the hose from freezing.
I was going to bring my HAWG, but it seems to be too cumbersome to have to wear over my parka.
Maybe I'll just bring a water bottle with me.


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I have been using a Camelbak while boarding for years. I used to use my regular biking pack, and did sometimes have problems with freezing in the tube. But since switching to a winter specific model with the insulated tube and covered mouthpiece, that has not been a problem. Though I always run water in my biking pack, I will use gatoraid in while boarding. I'm a pretty high energy boarding, doing a lot of steeps and moguls, so I tend to go more anaerobic than biking and the sugar helps with that.

I also really like having a pack big enough to store a layer or two. That way I can start bundled up at first chair, strip down a bit for mid day, then layer back up toward the end of the day in the clouds roll in.
 
My camelback is definitely the best beer receptacle out there. Just blow into the tube and it generally won't freeze. It also helps if you have a neoprene tube cover....
 
Jefe74 said:
I also really like having a pack big enough to store a layer or two. That way I can start bundled up at first chair, strip down a bit for mid day, then layer back up toward the end of the day in the clouds roll in.
I'll second that part. There's nothing worse than needing to shed a layer and not being able to without going back to the lodge.
 
Well, I said "really cold." I'm out frequently in temps below 10 degrees and 20+ MPH winds (yeah, Loveland!) and I gave up on the hydration pack ages ago. I just carry a couple bottles of water in my pockets, and hope I don't stack up onto them. The only time I wear a pack with a hydration system is when I' riding b/c, which is an essential on long hikes.
 
Stick with newer models and brands you can trust (Not the sette bladder). I had a bladder leak on me while snowboarding a few years ago and it really sucked. It completely ruined my day and I ended up getting a cold from wearing wet and frozen pants around all day. But as far as bringing one with you the slopes its a good idea. Minimizes pit stops and maximizes riding time. If you think the bladder might be leaking on you, get it off immediatly. Cold and wet will mess you up.
 
Altitude? How is 10,200 where I live sound? I use a hydration pack with no extra pouches or pockets to keep the bulk minimum. The hose is just kept under my jacket, and I take a few sips on the ride up.. The issue is to maintain hydration.
 
Manmountain Dense said:
Well, I said "really cold." I'm out frequently in temps below 10 degrees and 20+ MPH winds (yeah, Loveland!) and I gave up on the hydration pack ages ago. I just carry a couple bottles of water in my pockets, and hope I don't stack up onto them. The only time I wear a pack with a hydration system is when I' riding b/c, which is an essential on long hikes.
Camelback makes an "unbottle". If you put that into an insulated pack, it should keep the water from freezing in the bladder. You only need to blow the water back into the bladder. Air is an excellent thermal insulator and is the mechanism by which any insulation works.

I agree that a different solution is needed for insulating the tubes. The neoprene sleeves help. But something that would really keep the tube from freezing with water in it would be good.
 
If your uplifting from south lake take your bigger pack, packed with whatever you may want for the day. Put it in a lodge. If it's your 1st time on the hill (sliding) I suggest Not bringing a pack for your lift accessed day, it can be dangerous for you and others around you. Should your buds be taking you bc, ask them, as you will need your pack, ie. appropriate gear. Does not sound thats your route, so I say stick a bottle or two of water inside your jacket when on the hill. It's not that cold in Tahoe & you won't be that far from all the comforts of high society. A 1st timer w/pack skiing or boarding is maybe something you need not worry about on the lifts...for all the obvious reasons.

Ask at TGR, your sure to get some sound advise as to all your concerns and never jonged! (epicski.com may be a better choice)

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willtsmith_nwi said:
Camelback makes an "unbottle". If you put that into an insulated pack, it should keep the water from freezing in the bladder. You only need to blow the water back into the bladder. Air is an excellent thermal insulator and is the mechanism by which any insulation works.

I agree that a different solution is needed for insulating the tubes. The neoprene sleeves help. But something that would really keep the tube from freezing with water in it would be good.
Yeah, I've seen that Camelbak bottle, and the Platypus version, but they seem like a waste of money when I can just carry cheap Kirkland water bottles from Costco that I don't mind losing. In any case, a pack still seems superfluous at a resort -- it's not like you need to carry nearly as much gear as when you're MTB'ing or riding out of bounds, and you can always keep extra layers and stuff in a locker or in your car. In-bounds, with a pack on my back, I feel like it tends to snag trees, and it bounces around too much during aggressive riding. It's distracting, and I just don't think it's necessary.

I'm not too keen on stuffing my hose inside my jacket -- if that sucker leaks, you're gonna be really, really bummed. Plus, who remembers to blow their water back into their bladder every time you take a drink? It's a nice idea, but if you forget once, you're SOL until you can get into the lodge and unfreeze your hose. Just a lot of hassle, from my perspective.
 
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Ok Ok....water bottles in the parka it is. I am going to stop at the first convienence store on the way from the airport and get me a case of water anyway. Taking everyones advice and gonna keep drinking. Water during the day, vodka during the night.
I'll post some pics when I get back.

Latest snow report says 10" so far today on top of a 30" base!! YEEEHAA!!!!
 
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