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I just bought myself some Storck Powerarms square. I read in a test that these crank with a Tune bottombracket was the least stiff setup. To avoid this I am now looking for a stiff yet light bracket for my Scott Genius. As most probably know it has to be 73mm e-type compatible.
I know Action Tec and PhilWood are compatibel with these type of shell. But are they stiff? Any other options?

thanks.
 
stiffness...

if stiffness is your main concern then you got one of the worst cranks in 1st place!

as mentioned above don't go with titanium - get a steel axle but then i have to ask why you spent so much money in a lightweight crank when you ruin the weight advantage with a heavy BB....???? if you need the stiffest BB go with the Deore!! no kidding. as shown in the test below the 304g Deore square BB has the highest readings: 67,6N/mm. just remember that todays integrated xc-designs all have about 110-120 N/mm. even "old-style" XTR, the famous military grey crankset, only had 88,2 N/mm...and wasn't that the crank that all raved about how super stiff it was;) ;)

you could have gotten away much cheaper with let's say some Race Face Next LPs and a nice Titanium BB with probably lower weight and better stiffness on top...

BUT my opinion about all those stiffness numbers is different anyway. i have never felt any power loss nor has never been a test made where they show any increase in power with stiffer cranks. what are all those overhyped intergrated cranksets with more than double the stiffness of old style square setups doing better? they "feel" stiffer? chainrings rub less on the front derailleurs? oh , very cool;)

just remind you that until 1-2 year ago half the Pro-Peloton in the roadie scene was using Campagnolo cranks with square BBs...and some of the best sprinters won hundreds of races sprinting with over 1000 watts on "flexy" square BBs...

anyway - below are some stiffness numbers which might be of interest for you...enjoy!

by the way: Stiffness readings are shown in N/mm
 

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I have seen all those tests. I must say that I am not That worried about stiffness. I just wanted the stiffest of light bottombrackets. I basicly want the best of both worlds. So as I understand, PhilWood is the way to go? Do you think there is a great difference (besides price, 100$ difference:eek: ) in there Premium Titanium and there Proprietary Titanium brackets? Other suggestions are always welcom!

And Nino, don't worry. I - will - not - rape such a nice crankset with a heavy bottombracket. I bought such light crankset because my Genius need to get under 10kg before next Transalp;)
Still 400gram to go:madman:
So probably going to change the Fox F100x for the Manitou R7 MRD, and replace the Shannon seatpost for the upcoming NewUltimate.
 
Even the square taper Ti BB's had rider weight limits, some as low as 165 pounds.

As long as the wheel is free to roll one would expect that torque required to make the wheel move will always be much less than the amount required to flex the cranks/BB.

You'd think that the place you'd really notice crank & BB stiffness is if you're standing on the pedals out of the saddle with the cranks parallel to the ground.
 
I don't think the Phil is compatible with the e-type dérailleur? The cups reside on the inside of the shell, there is no "lip" like Shimano BBs for the dérailleur to hold on to.I could be wrong though...just something to double check.
 
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