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I've been using XT square taper BB's with my 9 speed XT cranks for years. I want to try new cranks and everything is Isis.

Are there positives and negatives to the Isis system as opposed to my traditional square taper?

What mid-upper level crank and BB pairs would people recomend? I love the XT's, how are the integrated BB setups working?

BTW, I have an '01 Dakar Pro with a 113x68 BB size.
 
I'd shy away from ISIS for now, there's been some durability issues with the bearings. Do a search for more info, it's been well covered in this forum.
Check out the new outboard bearing types of cranks or octalink (shimano), if you feel the need for some newer technology.

I'm still happily using sq taper and will stick w/ 'em for the foreseeable future.
I think it's hard to beat bang for the buck with shimano deore or lx (which is octalink).

good luck,
S

mattsavage said:
I've been using XT square taper BB's with my 9 speed XT cranks for years. I want to try new cranks and everything is Isis.

Are there positives and negatives to the Isis system as opposed to my traditional square taper?

What mid-upper level crank and BB pairs would people recomend? I love the XT's, how are the integrated BB setups working?

BTW, I have an '01 Dakar Pro with a 113x68 BB size.
 
second that

logbiter said:
I'd shy away from ISIS for now, there's been some durability issues with the bearings. Do a search for more info, it's been well covered in this forum.
Check out the new outboard bearing types of cranks or octalink (shimano), if you feel the need for some newer technology.

I'm still happily using sq taper and will stick w/ 'em for the foreseeable future.
I think it's hard to beat bang for the buck with shimano deore or lx (which is octalink).

good luck,
S
When you make the spindle fatter, yet the cups are the same diameter to fit in existing BB shells, the size of the bearings must become smaller. Smaller bearings wear out quicker. Same problem plaqued the old Magic Motorcycle/Coda cranks which used a fat splined spindle long before shitmano and others. The bearings needed attention frequently.
Pluses of spline spindles: theoretically more rigid. How often are you out riding and lamenting the lack of rigidity in your square taper spindle? Yeah.
Another plus: Spline is more common.
Minuses:
Other than the bearing issue, which should be enough to steer any right-thinking person away from them, is the alloy issue. Too bad a lot of the cranks that use them are now made out of softer 6000 alloy rather than the really good 7075 everybody used for aftermarket square taper cranks of old. So the soft splines in the cranks start wallowing out and the cranks become loose and sloppy. You read it here almost daily. Waaaa, my Truvativ/Bonty/pick a name splined cranks are loose, waaaa.
I got 17 bikes, oh wait, make that 16, forgot my alpinestars broke. all with square taper. they all seem to work ok. some even with ti spindles. and I'm big and got freakishly big strong legs. only spindle I ever broke was a campy super record track c.p. ti spindle, which caused an ugly crash on the velodrome.
 
RaceFace

i have been running a Raceface sq taper bb and next lp crankset for 3 years now with no problems. i can't imagine anything better.

If it ain't broke..... :D
 
Stay Away From ISIS. priod.

mattsavage said:
I've been using XT square taper BB's with my 9 speed XT cranks for years. I want to try new cranks and everything is Isis.

Are there positives and negatives to the Isis system as opposed to my traditional square taper?

What mid-upper level crank and BB pairs would people recomend? I love the XT's, how are the integrated BB setups working?

BTW, I have an '01 Dakar Pro with a 113x68 BB size.
No durability wha-so -ever !! :mad:
 
How do you feel about it...

rufus said:
i just ordered a set of square taper race face turbine lp cranks and bottom bracket. i've heard the durability issues with isis, and now loose cranks with the new x-types. think i made a wise decision?
Kinda late now since you already ordered them. FWIW: I think you made a great decision. I run that same combo (I'm 200 lbs + probably another 8-10 lbs of Camelb@k), and the cranks are plenty stiff. I bought an extra un72 BB so I can replace my current one when it wears out in probably another 5 or so years.
 
Where did you guys get your square taper cranks?

I'm looking to replace my LX cranks/bb with a Race Face/Phil Wood setup, but I don't know who is selling the square taper cranks new. Any help would be appreciated.
 
The Don said:
I'm looking to replace my LX cranks/bb with a Race Face/Phil Wood setup, but I don't know who is selling the square taper cranks new. Any help would be appreciated.
You can get RF Turbines from ebay pretty cheap every once in a while. If you wanna save some cash and get the best deal going on another LX square taper, check out here:
http://www.chucksbikes.com/store/indexcs011.htm
 
Brace1 said:
Kinda late now since you already ordered them. FWIW: I think you made a great decision. I run that same combo (I'm 200 lbs + probably another 8-10 lbs of Camelb@k), and the cranks are plenty stiff. I bought an extra un72 BB so I can replace my current one when it wears out in probably another 5 or so years.
i feel pretty good about it, cause for one, i like the looks of the lp turbine and chainrings better than the new x-type cranks. and if i was gonna go with a newer design, i was probably going to bypass isis in favor of the new one. and like you, i bought an extra bottom bracket(raceface, i'm trying to keep this bike as little shimano as possible. only shifters, derailleurs, and probably cassette) to have when the original finally tanks it. the guy at cambria told me that raceface are not going to be making their square-taper, and now, even their isis bottom brackets, now that they've gone to the x-type cranks.

I'm looking to replace my LX cranks/bb with a Race Face/Phil Wood setup, but I don't know who is selling the square taper cranks new. Any help would be appreciated.
i ordered my raceface turbines from pricepoint. maybe some day i'll spring for a phil wood bottom bracket. seems like that, with a king headset, is the ultimate for these high stress areas.
 
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