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Discussion starter · #1 · (Edited)
Hi MTB'ers,

I'm not only the new kid on the block, but apparently one of the
very few who ride a chainless, driveshaft bike. It's a Dynamic
Outback which I've had for 3 weeks. I'm running it through the mud
and dirt to see if I can hang it up. So far I haven't been able to stop riding it. My Fuel 80 is collecting dust. It's so easy to pedal......It reminds me of riding my Fuel 80 after I replaced the chain, the rings and the rear cluster and added fresh lube.

My Dynamic Outback chainless bike:

I'll let the Group know what I think about the Nexus 8 speed hub and
the Sussex Driveshaft combo as time goes by.

Cheers.

ShaftMan
 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
My Chainless....Compromises

Hi Sorbut, Kona0197 and the Group,

I did accept some compromises when I decided to go
chainless, but I have no regrets.....No more chain sludge
grinding and wearing away at my drivetrain.

Yup, under hard torque, there is some pedal bob as in
most "Y" frames. Luckily it goes away in the higher gears.
And it does depend on your pedaling cadence. They needed a frame
in which the drive shaft had no pressure on it. It cannot change
it's length like a chain, when the back wheel goes over a bump. That's
probably why they chose a "y" frame/suspension. The Outback's drive
shaft has no slip joint like in a car.

And yup again.....no rear disc break. Does Shimano
make a flanged 8 speed hub for a disc brake? Most of the
work, as you know, in stopping is done with the front brake,
but you're right.......What happens when it's wet out there?

You can bet I'll do some ranting to Dynamic!

Cheers.

ShaftMan
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
My Chainless Bike......Evolution

Hi Grawbass and the Group,

Thanks for the pics on chainless bikes of the 1900's. Maybe
if they could have figured out how to make a lightweight transmission
back then....there'd be more chainless bikes today.

Bring on the bicycle evolution!

Happy trails.

ShaftMan
 
#7 ·
Crosstown 8

I owned a Dynamic Bicycles shaft drive bicycle. The Sussex shaft drive was not built to specifications that could handle the torque generated when pedaling uphill, or pedaling hard on level ground. The result was that the shaft drive was not maintenance free--in fact, it broke. I replaced it with a new shaft drive sent by Dynamic Bicycles. The new one began to break and I was told by their Production Manager that I was exceeding the specifications of the shaft drive. I received a verbal agreement from him to refund the purchase price of the bicycle. Dynamic Bicycles even took care of the return shipping for the bicycle.

Once they received it, however, the president of Dynamic Bicycles told me that I had owned the bicycle longer than 30 days, so the satisfaction guarantee no longer applied. I was given the option of having my bicycle returned to me with a tightened bolt and new grease, which would supposedly fix the problem, or receiving a refund minus the cost of shipping and a 15% restocking fee. Despite phone conversations, emails and then a complaint process with the Better Business Bureau In Eastern Massachusetts, Maine, Rhode Island and Vermont (http://boston.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=27&id=b9531757-8bff-425c-83ce-ef5cf233e6a5), the president of the company would not uphold a verbal agreement stated twice and acknowledged by email. Because I do not live in Massachusetts, the state where Dynamic Bicycles is located, it made no sense for me to pursue a mediation or claim in small claims court, which would have required my presence. I will never do business with Dynamic Bicycles again, nor would I recommend doing business with Dynamic Bicycles. I am also weary of bicycles sold with shaft drives built by Sussex.
 
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ShaftMan said:
And yup again.....no rear disc break. Does Shimano
make a flanged 8 speed hub for a disc brake? Most of the
work, as you know, in stopping is done with the front brake,
but you're right.......What happens when it's wet out there?
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There are nexus coasters, and drums they called rollers. Sachs/Sram had coasters and drums and some models have disc bolt holes. Sachs hubs take the same cogs so the drive shaft might work with them.
 
#11 ·
Don't be mislead by Vaccinefiend

I am offended at Vaccinefiend's misleading and shameless posting above. So let's set the record straight. This customer owned his Dynamic Bicycle for nearly a year. He called us and claimed that his shaft drive was broken and asked for a refund. Even though his bicycle was 9 months beyond the normal return period, we offered a refund in good faith that it was actually broken. When the bicycle was returned to us, it did not have the problem he claimed -- the shaft drive was perfectly fine. His bike only needed some adjustments and it was as good as new. When we called him to tell him his bike did not have the problem he thought and that it was running great, we thought he would be pleased. He wasn't. We did the service at no charge and even offered to ship the bicycle back to him at our expense. He refused. At Dynamic Bicycles, we have a great reputation for our excellent customer service. But even we have to draw the line when we think we are being taken advantage of. This customer clearly was trying to take advantage of us. He thought he could claim to have a problem and send a bike back after riding it extensively for nearly a year and get a full refund. This is incredulous. Yet despite his attitude, we still gave him a generous refund - his entire initial purchase price less 15% plus shipping - quite a deal for using the bike for nearly an entire year. Then he goes onto blogs and posts his drama for the world to see. We regret that this customer had difficulty with his bike, but we stand behind our bikes and our efforts to serve him. He clearly had no interest in resolving the problem with his bike. He just wanted a free ride.

If you have questions about Dynamic's bikes, ask us. We take great pride in our bikes and stand behind them with great customer service.
 
#13 ·
pperugini said:
I am offended at Vaccinefiend's misleading and shameless posting above. So let's set the record straight. This customer owned his Dynamic Bicycle for nearly a year. He called us and claimed that his shaft drive was broken and asked for a refund. Even though his bicycle was 9 months beyond the normal return period, we offered a refund in good faith that it was actually broken. When the bicycle was returned to us, it did not have the problem he claimed -- the shaft drive was perfectly fine. His bike only needed some adjustments and it was as good as new. When we called him to tell him his bike did not have the problem he thought and that it was running great, we thought he would be pleased. He wasn't. We did the service at no charge and even offered to ship the bicycle back to him at our expense. He refused. At Dynamic Bicycles, we have a great reputation for our excellent customer service. But even we have to draw the line when we think we are being taken advantage of. This customer clearly was trying to take advantage of us. He thought he could claim to have a problem and send a bike back after riding it extensively for nearly a year and get a full refund. This is incredulous. Yet despite his attitude, we still gave him a generous refund - his entire initial purchase price less 15% plus shipping - quite a deal for using the bike for nearly an entire year. Then he goes onto blogs and posts his drama for the world to see. We regret that this customer had difficulty with his bike, but we stand behind our bikes and our efforts to serve him. He clearly had no interest in resolving the problem with his bike. He just wanted a free ride.

If you have questions about Dynamic's bikes, ask us. We take great pride in our bikes and stand behind them with great customer service.
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Since I can't inspect the bike I really can't say much about vaccinefriend's post nor yours. However I do note that vaccinefriend is new to the forums and apparently only joined to bash your product. He posted the identical complaint even in the downhill forum yet he's older than dirt apparently and unlikely even knows what downhill riding is about, let alone doing so with your product. I'm not inclined to give his posts much credence in any case. He appears to be a ******** based on his appearance here and thus I would tend to look on your explanation as the truthful one....but OTOH I'm not likely to try your product any time soon for a variety of reasons, but good luck!

ps I seem to have been censored, so let's try calling vaccinefriend a ***** mother****er! Probably won't go through, but I think it's appropriate in any case.

pps Well darn, that ol' censorship keeps happening. Let's just say that I really hope vaccinefriend has nothing to do with the medical community but these days it wouldn't surprise me...
 
#19 ·
pperugini said:
I am offended at Vaccinefiend's misleading and shameless posting above. So let's set the record straight. This customer owned his Dynamic Bicycle for nearly a year. He called us and claimed that his shaft drive was broken and asked for a refund. Even though his bicycle was 9 months beyond the normal return period, we offered a refund in good faith that it was actually broken. When the bicycle was returned to us, it did not have the problem he claimed -- the shaft drive was perfectly fine. His bike only needed some adjustments and it was as good as new. When we called him to tell him his bike did not have the problem he thought and that it was running great, we thought he would be pleased. He wasn't. We did the service at no charge and even offered to ship the bicycle back to him at our expense. He refused. At Dynamic Bicycles, we have a great reputation for our excellent customer service. But even we have to draw the line when we think we are being taken advantage of. This customer clearly was trying to take advantage of us. He thought he could claim to have a problem and send a bike back after riding it extensively for nearly a year and get a full refund. This is incredulous. Yet despite his attitude, we still gave him a generous refund - his entire initial purchase price less 15% plus shipping - quite a deal for using the bike for nearly an entire year. Then he goes onto blogs and posts his drama for the world to see. We regret that this customer had difficulty with his bike, but we stand behind our bikes and our efforts to serve him. He clearly had no interest in resolving the problem with his bike. He just wanted a free ride.

If you have questions about Dynamic's bikes, ask us. We take great pride in our bikes and stand behind them with great customer service.
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Is there any way I can buy this guy's bike he was unhappy with? I'm on a limited income due to a nueuromuscular disease and riding a bike is much easier than walking for long distances for me. Nothing I hate worse than reading someone taking advantage of a company's good will. I do photography and sometime have customers try to add extras into a contract and get more than they contracted for so I understand how you felt about this person's dishonesty. That bike has a years worth of use and if it is the right size--I'm sure I could put it to good use even if I purchase it used!
 
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